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Shock and Strut Replacement -- Cheap, OEM, or Upgrade?

158 messages,  Last post on Nov 04, 2009 at 7:41 AM

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What is this discussion about? Performance Mods, Suspension

This forum is to discuss shock/strut problems and how to best deal with what is becoming a rather expensive replacement item on cars approaching 60K-80K miles. Are products sold by chain stores just too cheesy to give decent performance? Is it worth upgrading shocks and struts if you are a more or less docile driver? Is OEM a rip-off for what you get?
 
Let's hear your ideas and experiences.


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Re: Sensa-Tracs attack! [Mr_Shiftright] by a2rabidhabit
Apr 15, 2008 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 14, 2008 5:27 am)

Thanks for the info and suggestions, Mr S. I had checked Monroe's Web site and found that the Sensa-Trac was the only strut mentioned as applicable for the '01 Legacy. Unfortunately, I didn't talk to Sears about them before my purchase, trusting that Monroe's claim of "comfort and control" was valid. I'm going back to Sears today to see what I can work out.
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Re: Sensa-Tracs attack! [a2rabidhabit] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 15, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: a2rabidhabit (Apr 15, 2008 7:28 am)

Yeah, tell them you are very unhappy with the ride and that you'd like the upgraded new and improved shock instead of this old stuff. If they want to charge you a pro-rate for the use you got out of the shocks, that seems fair if a bit nit-picking. So they are saying that Monroe only sells their obsolete shock for the Subaru? Hmmm.........
 
If you want to die and go to heaven, buy Bilsteins---but they are expensive. however, if you plan to keep the car for a long time, well worth it. But Koni makes a good shock, and the KYBs are decent enough for the money.
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Re: Sensa-Tracs attack! [Mr_Shiftright] by a2rabidhabit
Apr 16, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 15, 2008 7:41 am)

I talked with Sears staff yesterday, and they said that there might be some extra stiffness during the "break-in period" for the struts—about 2,000 miles, according to them. They also said they would check to see if the struts had been installed correctly (maybe something was "overtightened") and to see if Monroe had sent them the correct struts—i.e., those for my Legacy versus those for a heavier Outback. I'm planning to take the car back tomorrow.
 
Before that, I'm wondering if they're right about a break-in period for struts (I know that my Legacy didn't start out riding this harshly when I bought it new) and if there's anything in the installation that could have been "overtightened" to affect the ride. I'd appreciate any advice.
 
BTW, I put Bilsteins on a '69 Dodge Dart V-8 I owned. A foolish attempt to turn chicken feathers into chicken soup, I know in retrospect, but that car handled great!
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Focus suspension by rincon1840
Apr 16, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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ZX3, car has 124K. Front spring broke. Purchased SVT suspension (f/struts, r/shocks, f/r springs, bump stops, sway bar) and two strut bearings for about $350. SVT suspensions are surplus right now, since SVT Focus is no more. Labor of $300 at a local, reputable shop. Eibach, etc, were considerably more expensive. Checked other auto parts stores; low-end products still would have been more expensive. Suspension parts were bought via internet (BAT Inc).
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Re: Sensa-Tracs attack! [a2rabidhabit] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 16, 2008 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: a2rabidhabit (Apr 16, 2008 9:59 am)

No, no, we aren't buying the "break in period for struts" song and dance.
 
But to be fair, they may have sold you the correct shock (correct in that it fits and is shown as correct in their books) and been acting in good faith in doing so---it just might be that this is not the shock for your needs, or that meets your OEM specs.
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Re: Sensa-Tracs attack! [Mr_Shiftright] by a2rabidhabit
Apr 23, 2008 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 16, 2008 4:48 pm)

Sears was cooperative. The struts turned out to be the correct Sensa-Tracs for my car, and they were installed properly, but Sears offers "Satisfaction Guaranteed," and I was very dissatisfied (and the Sears customer service rep could see/feel why after a short test drive). After checking with the Monroe district rep, Sears offered to return my money if I had other struts installed and returned the Monroes to them.
 
I have a choice between getting KYBs or Subaru OEM struts for about the same price. Do you have any recommendation of one or the other? (My inclination is to go with the OEMs, but I'm curious to know if there's a reason to favor the KYBs.)
 
Thanks again for all the help with this really stressful problem.
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Re: Sensa-Tracs attack! [a2rabidhabit] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 24, 2008 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: a2rabidhabit (Apr 23, 2008 6:35 pm)

Well I guess I'll answer your question with a question. How long did the original OEMs last you? If they are approx. the same price as KYB and went a long time the first time, I'd go with OEM then.
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Re: Sensa-Tracs attack! [Mr_Shiftright] by a2rabidhabit
May 15, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 24, 2008 5:13 pm)

Just to wrap up... I went with the OEMs, and everything's back to normal. They cost just $20 more to buy and install than the Monroes. (The shop who installed them told me that the KYBs would have been stiffer than the Monroes, so the decision became easy.)
 
Sears took the Monroes back and refunded my payment, and my teeth aren't rattling every time I hit a bump now.
 
Thanks again for all your help in straightening this out!
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Re: Sensa-Tracs attack! [a2rabidhabit] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 15, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: a2rabidhabit (May 15, 2008 7:36 am)

One thing about OEM--you might pay more, but at least the parts fit and they work.
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Should I replace the shocks by fhh1
Dec 13, 2008 (2:07 pm)
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I have a 2000 Ford Explorer with 115K miles shocks have never been replaced. I was told my shocks were leaking. The ride does feel rough. After getting an estimate for $750 and doing some research and learning that replacing shocks MYSELF may not be too bad, I am considering taking the leap. Should I replace the shocks?
 
Also I am considering Bilstein shocks based on some info on forums. Any reason not to use Bilstein. Would anyone recommend another brand for a 2000 Explorer? I am looking for a good value on the shocks.
 
Finally, any other suggestions to improve the ride?
 
Thanks
Francis

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