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Shock and Strut Replacement -- Cheap, OEM, or Upgrade?

158 messages,  Last post on Nov 04, 2009 at 7:41 AM

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What is this discussion about? Performance Mods, Suspension

This forum is to discuss shock/strut problems and how to best deal with what is becoming a rather expensive replacement item on cars approaching 60K-80K miles. Are products sold by chain stores just too cheesy to give decent performance? Is it worth upgrading shocks and struts if you are a more or less docile driver? Is OEM a rip-off for what you get?
 
Let's hear your ideas and experiences.


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Re: Clunking sound (help please!) [bandhel] by 0patience
Jul 30, 2007 (10:46 pm)
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Replying to: bandhel (Jul 30, 2007 8:03 pm)

It sounds like either the strut is loose or possibly one of the wheel bearings may be shot.
 
As for one of the national chains, if they have a suspension/alignment guy, then they should be able to locate the problem. If you are on the west coast, Les Schwab Tires usually has pretty good alignment guys.
Just have them check it out (you may have to pay for diagnostics). Then you can decide how you want to procede. If the dealer won't warranty the work, then you may be better off having someone else do the work. Their work for you wasn't very good.
 
Here is a small list of thoughts of things it could be.
Loose or broken motor mount.
Loose or broken strut or strut tower.
Loose or broken steering knuckle.
worn out wheel bearings.
Loose brake caliper.
 
Any of these will cause a clunk.
 
Does it clunk on acceleration or deceleration more than not?
Or is it only when going over bumps?
 
Usually CV joints will make more noise on turning than going straight.
If you can narrow down where the noise seems to be coming from, that will help.
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Re: Clunking sound (help please!) [0patience] by siadn
Aug 13, 2007 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: 0patience (Jul 29, 2007 9:34 am)

I have a 01 Accord. It seems to give a creaking sound when going over uneven road. also when I go over a speed bump slowly and the car moves up and down it gives a creaking noise.
 
Should I go to Midas in the Maryland area?
I have about 60,000 miles on the Accord.
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Rattling Front End by jerseycoast
Aug 27, 2007 (9:53 am)
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Just came back from the dealership with a quote of $795.99 plus tax. "1999 Cirrus" Two front struts and upper support bearings. A little over 60,000 miles and had all brakes repleced then started hearing this rattling up front. Took it to a shop other then dealership and was told my I had a bad right ball joint. So had both replaced. Managed to take some of the rattling out but didn't end the noise. Finally was told by a body shop friend that my upper strut suopport bearings were shot. Kits in the auto store run about $15 to $30 per strut but the cost to replace then is the same as if they were installing new struts. So the complete package along with an alignment was the above price quoted. I find the price a bit high but when it comes down to it what is the alternative? It is funny how some cars can run pretty near a lifetime and never have major front end problems yet others with only 60,000 need pretty near the complete front end replaced. I guess you call it good car-bad car. Good luck finding the right price.
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Re: Rattling Front End [jerseycoast] by burdawg
Aug 27, 2007 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: jerseycoast (Aug 27, 2007 9:53 am)

Do you drive on rough roads? I ask because when I lived on the east coast there were some pretty rough roads. That could be an explanation.
If your talking about two new strut assemblies, without the springs (old springs compressed and re-used), two new upper bearings, alignment and labor, it sounds a bit high. If completely new struts are used (new springs already installed) then it could be about right. I'm not real familiar with the car though so there could be something I'm not aware of that makes it more expensive.
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All four struts frozen (mechanic caused?) by kennyd1
Sep 14, 2007 (4:39 pm)
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Took my 98 Dodge Neon to have the radiator fan relay replaced at a local shop. Also, purchased an oil change with "complimentary" tire rotation. Picked up the car and drove the .5 mile home without noticing anything.
 
Drove the car to work the next day and the ride was terrible with hard bumps and bouncing.
 
Called the mechanic first thing to see if any adjustments had been made to the suspension during the tire rotation to explain the rough ride. He got defensive and stated that he did not do a tire rotation and nothing he did could have caused any problems. Though the garage secretary mentioned the tire rotation twice to me before the work he stated that the tire rotation was listed on the receipt but he blamed it on a computer error.
 
Took the car back that evening and the mechanic found that all four struts are frozen. No movement up or down.
He could not explain what would freeze all four struts simultainiously and implied that the problem was there before he touched it. It was not. This same mechanic had replaced the brakes on the car 6 months earlier with no problems at that time. His only solution was for me to pay $800 to replace all four struts with no acceptance of fault or reduction in price.
 
Could he have damaged all four struts with improper lift placement or usage?
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Re: All four struts frozen (mechanic caused?) [kennyd1] by kiawah
Sep 14, 2007 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: kennyd1 (Sep 14, 2007 4:39 pm)

Unlikely. How many miles on this vehicle, and are these the original struts?
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Re: All four struts frozen (mechanic caused?) [kiawah] by kennyd1
Sep 15, 2007 (3:09 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Sep 14, 2007 4:45 pm)

80k and original struts. It would make sense that these things are due to be replaced. But I do not understand how all 4 struts froze up at the same time in the same way. What are the odds?
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Re: All four struts frozen (mechanic caused?) [kennyd1] by burdawg
Sep 15, 2007 (11:06 pm)
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Replying to: kennyd1 (Sep 14, 2007 4:39 pm)

I've never heard of a strut "freezing up". Do you mean that there's no travel in the suspension at all? Even if a strut was damaged I don't see how it could happen to all four simultaneously. Is the ride height the same as it has always been?
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Re: All four struts frozen (mechanic caused?) [burdawg] by kennyd1
Sep 16, 2007 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: burdawg (Sep 15, 2007 11:06 pm)

You cannot push down on any corner of the car. And when you lift up on any corner there is no movement either. It is as if all four struts froze at the lowest point of travel(car sits high).
 
I am not sure about the ride height. The gap between the tires and the wheel wells are even on all four sides and if anything a little bit wider than before. That is why the first thing that I thought about was the mechanic's lift.
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Re: All four struts frozen (mechanic caused?) [kennyd1] by kiawah
Sep 16, 2007 (3:51 am)
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Replying to: kennyd1 (Sep 16, 2007 3:38 am)

Very unusual.

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