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#81 of 729 Sonatas.... by andys120 Nov 23, 2005 (5:40 pm)
are selling reasonably well here but Hyundais are poular here. Local dealer dropped Saturn to pick it up, smartest thing he ever did.   I think they're attractive. Replies to this message: 210delray (Nov 23, 2005 8:01 pm) rroyce10 (Nov 26, 2005 3:32 am)
#82 of 729 Sonata sales by 210delray Nov 23, 2005 (8:01 pm)
Replying to: andys120 (Nov 23, 2005 5:40 pm) What you see on the road can be misleading. You need to look at the actual sales numbers.   As of October 31, Hyundai had sold about 95,000 Sonatas from the beginning of the year, but only about 32,000 were domestically produced, meaning the 2006 V6 Sonata. The rest were mostly imported 2005 models with a smattering of 4-cylinder 2006s.
#83 of 729 Re: Mazda 6s are hot! [andys120] by carguy58 Nov 24, 2005 (8:45 pm)
Replying to: andys120 (Nov 23, 2005 11:47 am) "I see alot of 'em here in NH, but hardly any of those nice wagons. I wonder if the pricey Mazdaspeed6 version will catch on."   I don't see alot of 6 wagons either and I think most of them are sold to rental fleets. As I matter of fact I see more 6 hatchbacks than 6 wagons around in Central or the lower Northern part of NJ. I live in Central NJ and travel to the lower part of Northern Jersey everyday. The hatcbacks that I see are not rentals either I don;t think since they have the dealer advertising around the license plates. I don't think Mazda is too popular in Southern Jersey or the Top half of Northern Jersey.
#84 of 729 I see a 6 wagon by guss Nov 25, 2005 (4:38 am)
everyday in my driveway. It was a North Jersey resident before I purchased it used with 13k miles.I think it was rental based at the airport.   You are right , I hardly ever see another 6 wagon though. Makes it nice to have a rare car you don't see at every corner.    I do see a lot of 6 sedans and hatchbacks though.I don't think the Mazda 6 line is a flop, but I bet it is short of what Mazda was hoping for.
#85 of 729 The Mazda6... by andre1969 Nov 25, 2005 (5:47 am)
is a pretty rare sight around my neck of the woods. The Mazda3 seems to be more prevalent. Replies to this message: carguy58 (Nov 26, 2005 11:08 am)
#86 of 729 Of the new for '05 by guss Nov 25, 2005 (6:27 am)
I would think the biggest disappointment would be the new GM mini-vans.I guess Chevy,Buick and Saturn all have their version out by now.   I just never see any on the street. GM took this bold move to capture mini-van sales and went with a mini-van that looked like a SUV and nobody cared.   I would bet their sales numbers were not up much over the previous model. Replies to this message: chuck1959 (Nov 25, 2005 9:52 am) prosa (Nov 25, 2005 1:31 pm)
#87 of 729 I see those new GM minivans all the time... by andre1969 Nov 25, 2005 (6:31 am)
on the sales lots!
#88 of 729 Re: Of the new for '05 [guss] by chuck1959 Nov 25, 2005 (9:52 am)
Replying to: guss (Nov 25, 2005 6:27 am) Personally I liked the new look. But I'll keep my Chrysler Town and Country as I love the sto and go seats.
#89 of 729 Re: Andys [esf] by merc1 Nov 25, 2005 (12:52 pm)
Replying to: esf (Nov 22, 2005 1:12 pm) And the reason it's so unsuccessful is its two arch rivals: the Audi A8L and the new Mercedes-Benz S-Class.   The A8 and S-Class had nothing to do with the Phaeton flopping. The Phaeton flopped because it was not only too expensive for VW, but VW's dealer and sales setup can't even handle Passat/Jetta/Golf buyers in the way of customer service so they were clueless on how to handle a buyer of a 70K car. Wrong price, badge, dealer network and so on, had nothing to do with other cars in the range because IMO just looking at the car itself it was just as good as any of the others in most respects. It was the dealer setup and VW's own inexpensive car roots that killed the car here and eventually in Europe too.   M Replies to this message: carguy58 (Nov 26, 2005 12:03 pm) prosa (Nov 26, 2005 7:32 pm)
#90 of 729 Re: Of the new for '05 [guss] by prosa Nov 25, 2005 (1:31 pm)
Replying to: guss (Nov 25, 2005 6:27 am) GM is coming out with new crossover-type minivans for MY 2008.

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