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Sales Flops of 2005

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Torrent by ateixeira
May 05, 2006 (1:01 pm)
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It's too early to say. It just came out. And Chevy has more dealers, so Equinox will outsell it.
 
It replaces the Aztek, so it's a definite improvement.
 
-juice
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [gagrice] by chuck1959
May 05, 2006 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 05, 2006 12:56 pm)

Thanks, but I was being sarcastic I haven't seen one either. I have seen a couple of Vibes, but a lot more Matrixs. IMO the Vibe and Torreent look close in size, too close.
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The only place I've seen the Torrent... by andre1969
May 05, 2006 (6:46 pm)
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is at auto shows. I kinda like it though. I actually prefer it to the Equinox, but then I always did have a preference for Ponchos. For example, I would take a Catalina over an Impala, a LeMans over a Chevelle, or even an Astre over a Vega!
 
One of my friends is going to be getting a new SUV soon, and he had narrowed it down to an Equinox or an Xterra. I tried to sway him towards the Torrent, but he didn't like it! But he's getting an Xterra anyway, so I guess it's a moot point. Hey GM, I tried.
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GM by nippononly
May 05, 2006 (8:36 pm)
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didn't do a good enough job on the rebadge with the Equinox/Torrent twins - they look so similar that the one will kill the other, methinks. And the Equinox got here first, so it has momentum the Pontiac doesn't have.
 
Neither is very popular though, right? Gas prices are probably hurting it a bit too - the 3.4 is the only engine, I think.
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What normally happens by pf_flyer HOST
May 06, 2006 (10:10 am)
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Once we get the archives back, this one will move there and we'll wind up with a 2006 topic.
 
That's so 500 years from now, when archaeologists are digging for clues here, they won't have to wade through a 10,000 post topic that contains the sales flops from all those years
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [bumpy] by carguy58
May 06, 2006 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (May 05, 2006 6:00 am)

"I haven't seen a Solstice yet, but I don't think that counts as a flop. The Pontiac dealer is twice as close as the Mazda dealer, but I've already seen 2 or 3 NCs."
 
What are NC's?
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [carguy58] by bumpy
May 06, 2006 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: carguy58 (May 06, 2006 1:36 pm)

Third-gen Miata/MX-5. NA (89-97) was the original with flip-up headlights, NB (98-05) was the second-gen with fixed headlights, and NC (06+) is the new one.
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Re: What normally happens [pf_flyer] by 210delray
May 06, 2006 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (May 06, 2006 10:10 am)

Is that the deal? The archives are going to come back?
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Re: What normally happens [210delray] by pf_flyer HOST
May 07, 2006 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (May 06, 2006 6:23 pm)

Oh yea... the archives are just in temporary cold storage!
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [bumpy] by ateixeira
May 08, 2006 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (May 06, 2006 2:06 pm)

Minor correction - there was no 98 model in the USA, so the first NB was really a 99 model.
 
Torrent does look too much like the Equinox, and why do both get the old 3.4l made in China when GM has a much better 3500 engine on the shelf? Maybe they used the old molds and shipped them to China?
 
Any how, Suzuki won out, because they get the stretch version of that platform with 3 rows of seats, plus a superior engine with 250hp.
 
That should have been the Pontiac.
 
-juice

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