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Sales Flops of 2005

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Re: Acura RL; [ateixeira] by carguy58
Apr 25, 2006 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 24, 2006 8:09 am)

"I like the way the Fusion looks, but I test drove its brother, the Milan, and it sure did drive like a boring car. To be fair is was a 4 banger, but loaded up. "
 
Well the Milan may have a more plush ride than the Fusion because its a Mercury and Mercury is considered mid-luxury right. Maybe the Fusion has a sportier ride than the Milan. I have sat in the Milan and its a nice car but the back of it stylistically doesn't do it for me. The front end of it looks pretty nice though with the huge grille. The interior in the Milan isn't half bad. I have sat in the Fusion and its pretty nice even though I wouldn't buy one.
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Re: Acura RL; [andre1969] by carguy58
Apr 25, 2006 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 25, 2006 9:03 am)

"Well, your typical Accord, Camry, or Altima is already very close to that, coming in around 117-119 cubic feet."
 
Well, the Camry and Accord get bigger each time they are redesigned. I wonder if the 94-97 accord was rated by EPA mid-size or compact but I have heard the 98 accord was the first time the Accord was rated as "officially" a "mid-size". Also, the Altima I wonder where the first two generations(93-97 and 98-01) of Altima were rated. I would guess the first generation of Altima(93-97)was probably rated compact by EPA. The 98-01 I don't know. The current Altima if you are 6 foot you could probably fit in the backseat very comfortably.
 
"The newest 2007 Camry might actually be considered full-sized!"
 
I'm not surprised that the current Camry would be considered full-size. I did sit in the backseat of the previous generation Camry and it was very roomy in the backseat.
 
"the Sonata and Azera are also considered full-sized cars."
 
The Sonata I have heard that it is rated as a full-size car. The Azera well it has to be full-size since its going up against the Avalon, 500, 300 and the LaCrosse.
 
"300's also have small windows, very thick roof pillars, a high beltline, and tend to come with dark interiors, so that may also make them feel tighter inside."
 
Thats one of the things about Chrysler's newer cars that I don't is that they have very small windows which probably impedes your view out. I mean say you were traveling on I-95 in Deleware and Maryland with there are 4 lanes of traffic going in one direction in a car like a Chrysler 300. Wouldn't there be a lot of blind spots that you couldn't see while traveling on an interstate like I-95 in a Chrysler 300 or a Dodge Magnum?
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Newest Camry Problems by msiseng
Apr 26, 2006 (7:36 pm)
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Well, the '07 Camry has transmission and other issues. Look in the Edmunds.com Camry forums. The good news is that Toyota seems to be doing everything to make the customer happy including buying the vehicles back without legal pressure. They are even letting people trade for the Lexus at no extra cost according to other sources. WOW.
 
I had issues with every Nissan/Infiniti that I ever bought. Nissan/infiniti never offered to do anything unless legally pressed. Kudos to Toyota for being loyal to their customers. While I am not a Toyota fan, this customer loyalty will just make the brand stronger.
 
Once they get this issue under control this may not be a sales flop. For now, sales are slower according to the other posts.
 
To the previous poster: My '06 Accord EX with Nav. has enough room for five adults. There is plenty of rear seat space. No cramping. Power is fine with five adults in the car. Very happy with the purchase. It may look vanilla, but it is a heck of a car!
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Sales Flops for 2005 by rockylee
May 05, 2006 (5:00 am)
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#1 Big Tuna Flop is probably the Pontiac Torrent. I haven't even seen one yet !!!!!
 
Rocky
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [rockylee] by bumpy
May 05, 2006 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (May 05, 2006 5:00 am)

I haven't seen a Solstice yet, but I don't think that counts as a flop. The Pontiac dealer is twice as close as the Mazda dealer, but I've already seen 2 or 3 NCs.
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [bumpy] by ateixeira
May 05, 2006 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (May 05, 2006 6:00 am)

That's more of an issue of lack of supply. Aren't they sold out through the end of summer?
 
-juice
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [ateixeira] by rockylee
May 05, 2006 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 05, 2006 6:14 am)

They are all gone including the Sky.
 
Rocky
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [rockylee] by chuck1959
May 05, 2006 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (May 05, 2006 5:00 am)

#1 Big Tuna Flop is probably the Pontiac Torrent. I haven't even seen one yet !!!!!
 
Pontiac Torrent???? What is that? LOL
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Are we deep enough into 2006 by logic1
May 05, 2006 (12:56 pm)
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that the name on this thread can change?
 
Seeing 2005 on the top of the heap of visited threads whenever I visit the townhall is disconcerting.
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Re: Sales Flops for 2005 [chuck1959] by gagrice
May 05, 2006 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: chuck1959 (May 05, 2006 12:51 pm)

It is an entry level CUV I would say. It sold 4000 in March. About 11k through March of this year. I have not seen one, nor have I looked for one. Too many look alike vehicles anymore.
 
http://www.pontiac.com/torrent/index.jsp?seo=goo_torrent

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