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#71 of 729 Re: VW Phaeton? [martian] by 210delray Nov 23, 2005 (7:27 am)
Replying to: martian (Nov 23, 2005 6:28 am) Well, everyone knows it was Herr Piech's baby. Certainly his underlings had their doubts about bringing this car to market, but who's to argue with the big cheese? Maybe VW should have called it the Piech to satiate his big ego.
#72 of 729 Re: Simple percentage drops [pf_flyer] by chuck1959 Nov 23, 2005 (8:06 am)
Replying to: pf_flyer (Nov 19, 2005 6:25 am) I've only seen a few G class as well. I'm guessing the sales haven't varied much on them one way or the other. The cars on the top ten list all had significant percentage sales drops.   It's not a surrpise to me. The G starts at $78,900 to $80,900.....the AMG version $101,400 to $104,500
#73 of 729 Re: VW Phaeton? [martian] by anythngbutgm Nov 23, 2005 (8:59 am)
Replying to: martian (Nov 23, 2005 6:28 am) You'd think people would have learned from the Cimarron
#74 of 729 Re: Andys [esf] by lemko Nov 23, 2005 (10:14 am)
Replying to: esf (Nov 22, 2005 1:12 pm) Isn't there a cheap Malaysian car called the Photon? They could sell a million of these to Trekkies if they had a model called the Photon Torpedo. Replies to this message: varmint (Nov 23, 2005 10:28 am)
#75 of 729 Re: Andys [lemko] by varmint Nov 23, 2005 (10:28 am)
Replying to: lemko (Nov 23, 2005 10:14 am) You might be thinking of Proton.   IIRC, they are most famous for producing a concept car which internet junkies mislabeled the next NSX.
#76 of 729 Phaeton... by andys120 Nov 23, 2005 (11:28 am)
it's not a bad car from what I gather. It's basically a branding mistake born of Herr Dr. Piech's mistaken desire to move the Volkswagen brand up market, perhaps to punish Daimler-Chrysler for moving into VW's area with the A and B Class M-Bs.   If the Phaeton had been badged as say a "Horch" or an "Auto Union" and sold thru Audi dealers it might have been widely hailed.   Coulda, woulda, shoulda..
#77 of 729 Sales flops: by carguy58 Nov 23, 2005 (11:43 am)
06 Hyundai Sonata-I know its selling but I don't see a whole lot of them. I think most of them are being sold to rental fleets. I see Pennsylvania or Massachusetts plate on the Sonata I see and usually if you see a Pennsylvania or Massachusetts plate(without the dealer advertising anywhere on the car)in New Jersey I would think its a rental.   Nissan Maxima- I think styling is hurting it.   Mazda 6-great styling but not enough interior room to compete in this class. They do have some popularity in NJ though.   Nissan Titan- I don't see a lot of Titans in NJ.   Pontiac G6- I see some around but it doesn't seem to have the popularity that the Grand Am did. Overall sales numbers tell the story too.   Chevy Malibu-I don't see many around. I see more Ford 500's around than I see 04 and up Malibu's.   Scion XB-Styling is jus too weird. Its like seeing a Ferrari if you see an XB in NJ.   Scion XA-Again its like seeing a Ferrari in NJ.   2004+ Mitsubishi Galant-I think Mitsu sells 3,000-4000 Galants a month. I think the Eclipse actually outsold the Galant 1 or 2 times during the last few months. The car is way overstyled on the exterior and the interior is cheap. This is how bad Galant sales are: in the 2004 model year the Mazda 6 sold 72K units(thats a low number for the midsize class) and the Galant sold 43K units.
#78 of 729 Mazda 6s are hot! by andys120 Nov 23, 2005 (11:47 am)
I see alot of 'em here in NH, but hardly any of those nice wagons. I wonder if the pricey Mazdaspeed6 version will catch on. Replies to this message: carguy58 (Nov 24, 2005 8:45 pm)
#79 of 729 2006 Hyundai Sonata by lemko Nov 23, 2005 (11:51 am)
My brother had a 2000 Hyundai Sonata that he was pretty happy with and wanted to buy a 2006 Hyundai Sonata - that was until he saw what it looked like - a ripoff of the current Honda Accord. He, instead, bought a leftover 2005 model.
#80 of 729 This is sad... by andre1969 Nov 23, 2005 (11:56 am)
but while I agree that the '06 Sonata is a ripoff of the Accord, somehow I think this is one of those rare cases where the imitation looks better than the original! Seems like a lot of car for the money, too. I think I'd still go with the Accord, which is just more proven, IMO. And has the better resale. The nice thing about an Accord or Camry is that, even if you end up hating it, resale is good enough that you could get out of it without losing your shirt. Let's just say that it's a good thing I liked my Intrepid, because if I didn't, I wouldn't have been able to trade until it was about 4 years old if I wanted to break even!   Now that I think about it, I haven't exactly seen a ton of Sonatas on the road, either. Considering how improved it is, I thought it would be a smash hit.

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