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Sales Flops of 2005

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One thing I just noticed... by andre1969
Apr 14, 2006 (5:43 am)
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about the Altima, both iterations, is the way the radio and HVAC controls are mounted at an angle. I've never had a car like that before...in the past all of my cars, even if the dash sloped, the face for the radio and HVAC were always fairly vertical.
 
For example, here's the dash of a 2000 Intrepid. The faces of the controls are fairly vertical, and actually angled a bit towards the driver. I wonder if having that slant to the controls, like the Altima has, would take much getting used to?
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Re: One thing I just noticed... [andre1969] by ateixeira
Apr 14, 2006 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 14, 2006 5:43 am)

I guess when it slopes away, it makes the interior seem roomier, less claustrophobic. I prefer a cockpit feel, put everything within my reach.
 
-juice
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Honda Ridgeline!! by exploder750
Apr 14, 2006 (6:24 am)
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Honda's had to cut production on this truck twice this year. Here's the kicker: A workmate of mine went to look at Ridgelines and the dealer had only one poorly appointed model available, and "might" be getting another one within two weeks, and of course it would go for full sticker price. I think Honda has taken lean manufacturing to an extreme here, creating their own sales problems bt making these things unavailable. My buddy ended up visiting Toyota and buying a Tundra, available and loaded with incentives.
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Re: Honda Ridgeline!! [exploder750] by ateixeira
Apr 14, 2006 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: exploder750 (Apr 14, 2006 6:24 am)

I believe they are selling slightly above forecasts now, actually. Honda is breaking sales records left and right.
 
Also, remember that it cost them very little since they used an existing platform and powertrain.
 
This is not a flop by ANY stretch of the imagination. It won North American Truck of the Year, so it's closer to the opposite!
 
-juice
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Ridgeline... by andre1969
Apr 14, 2006 (6:40 am)
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didn't Honda only expect to sell around 50,000 of these per year, anyway? Well, according to www.aicautosite, they sold 5,344 in March, and 13,643 YTD. So they should be able to move around 50-60,000 this year, I'd think.
 
When you figure it only offers one bodystyle and one engine, and only AWD, that's not too bad.
 
In contrast, Dodge moved 8,165 Dakotas in March, and 19,008 YTD. And that's a truck that offers 2wd and 4wd, two cab configurations, and both V-6 and V-8 power. Nissan moved a similar number of Frontiers.
 
The Ridgeline also outsells the Avalanche, although the Avalanche's numbers might be a bit low, if they're switching over to the new body style now.
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Re: Ridgeline... [andre1969] by ateixeira
Apr 14, 2006 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 14, 2006 6:40 am)

The Dakota name is already established, too.
 
Ridgeline is a new entry that is trying to gain market share for its manufacturer. Not an established nameplate.
 
On pace to sell 60k per year, that means Honda invested very little and is raking in big bucks with very little effort. They probably need to hire more accountants to count all the profits.
 
Flop? Heck no!
 
-juice
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Re: Nissan/Infiniti Usually Has First Year Issues [robertsmx] by anythngbutgm
Apr 14, 2006 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Apr 13, 2006 1:43 pm)

149k+ miles, NICE! Should be good for many many more.
 
My BIL had an Altima SL when they came out in 02' An EGR valve or throttle body issue sent himback to the dealer where he traded it on a Maxima (Just broke 80k or so, problem free) And his then fiance mentioned the auto tranny was funky.
 
Like the restyle, but I don't think they went far enough on the interior. I give it a B- for effort over the current model.
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Re: Honda Ridgeline!! [exploder750] by robertsmx
Apr 14, 2006 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: exploder750 (Apr 14, 2006 6:24 am)

Honda's sales estimate for Ridgeline were 50K units over a 12 month period, and Honda sold 50,892 units. So, they produced about what they projected over 12 months. I'm not sure where those rumors about reduced production came from... unless Honda was producing more than they expected to sell.
 
Ridgeline did start out slow for the first 5-6 months, but has since caught sales, and at current pace, Honda will have to increase production.
 
As for lean production... no automaker wants to load their vehicles with incentives. They want to sell every one they make... a great way of getting the business done.
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Ridge by anythngbutgm
Apr 14, 2006 (7:16 am)
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Here's an unusual site. Driving through my center of town where I live there is a stoplight. There were 3 Ridgelines at the light at the same time!
 
They are selling pretty moderately around here. Probably now that Honda has lowered the astronomical asking price to reasonable levels...
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Pricing by robertsmx
Apr 14, 2006 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Apr 14, 2006 7:16 am)

Honda, like any automaker, lists an MSRP that is 9-10% more than listed invoice. Except for extremely high demand vehicle, it should be rather easy to expect market price close to invoice, and currently, more so in light truck market.
 
Ridgeline is quite popular in the part of Dallas area where I live in.

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