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#68 of 729 Re: You caught me with the Forester! [callmedrfill] by andys120 Nov 22, 2005 (3:17 pm)
Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 22, 2005 2:28 pm) You know, another sales disappointment to me is the 4Runner. It's is losing ground to a 5 year-old Highlander!   Hardly surprising, crossover sales are hot truck-SUVs are not.
#69 of 729 Re: Luxury trade-ins up.... [andys120] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Nov 22, 2005 (4:33 pm)
Replying to: andys120 (Nov 22, 2005 8:07 am) You could always buy a Jaguar cheap in the used car market, that's nothin' new.
#70 of 729 VW Phaeton? by martian Nov 23, 2005 (6:28 am)
Just what was Wolfsburg thinking with this bomb? A VW for close to 100K $? Who in that market segment would consider a VW? Its like the Taureg/Cayeen situation: why pay 10K$ more for a VW with a Porsche badge on it? The two cars are practically identical-this is repeating what GM has been doing for years (badge engineering). Only, it doesn't make sense in the world of high-priced barnds. Replies to this message: 210delray (Nov 23, 2005 7:27 am) anythngbutgm (Nov 23, 2005 8:59 am)
#71 of 729 Re: VW Phaeton? [martian] by 210delray Nov 23, 2005 (7:27 am)
Replying to: martian (Nov 23, 2005 6:28 am) Well, everyone knows it was Herr Piech's baby. Certainly his underlings had their doubts about bringing this car to market, but who's to argue with the big cheese? Maybe VW should have called it the Piech to satiate his big ego.
#72 of 729 Re: Simple percentage drops [pf_flyer] by chuck1959 Nov 23, 2005 (8:06 am)
Replying to: pf_flyer (Nov 19, 2005 6:25 am) I've only seen a few G class as well. I'm guessing the sales haven't varied much on them one way or the other. The cars on the top ten list all had significant percentage sales drops.   It's not a surrpise to me. The G starts at $78,900 to $80,900.....the AMG version $101,400 to $104,500
#73 of 729 Re: VW Phaeton? [martian] by anythngbutgm Nov 23, 2005 (8:59 am)
Replying to: martian (Nov 23, 2005 6:28 am) You'd think people would have learned from the Cimarron
#74 of 729 Re: Andys [esf] by lemko Nov 23, 2005 (10:14 am)
Replying to: esf (Nov 22, 2005 1:12 pm) Isn't there a cheap Malaysian car called the Photon? They could sell a million of these to Trekkies if they had a model called the Photon Torpedo. Replies to this message: varmint (Nov 23, 2005 10:28 am)
#75 of 729 Re: Andys [lemko] by varmint Nov 23, 2005 (10:28 am)
Replying to: lemko (Nov 23, 2005 10:14 am) You might be thinking of Proton.   IIRC, they are most famous for producing a concept car which internet junkies mislabeled the next NSX.
#76 of 729 Phaeton... by andys120 Nov 23, 2005 (11:28 am)
it's not a bad car from what I gather. It's basically a branding mistake born of Herr Dr. Piech's mistaken desire to move the Volkswagen brand up market, perhaps to punish Daimler-Chrysler for moving into VW's area with the A and B Class M-Bs.   If the Phaeton had been badged as say a "Horch" or an "Auto Union" and sold thru Audi dealers it might have been widely hailed.   Coulda, woulda, shoulda..
#77 of 729 Sales flops: by carguy58 Nov 23, 2005 (11:43 am)
06 Hyundai Sonata-I know its selling but I don't see a whole lot of them. I think most of them are being sold to rental fleets. I see Pennsylvania or Massachusetts plate on the Sonata I see and usually if you see a Pennsylvania or Massachusetts plate(without the dealer advertising anywhere on the car)in New Jersey I would think its a rental.   Nissan Maxima- I think styling is hurting it.   Mazda 6-great styling but not enough interior room to compete in this class. They do have some popularity in NJ though.   Nissan Titan- I don't see a lot of Titans in NJ.   Pontiac G6- I see some around but it doesn't seem to have the popularity that the Grand Am did. Overall sales numbers tell the story too.   Chevy Malibu-I don't see many around. I see more Ford 500's around than I see 04 and up Malibu's.   Scion XB-Styling is jus too weird. Its like seeing a Ferrari if you see an XB in NJ.   Scion XA-Again its like seeing a Ferrari in NJ.   2004+ Mitsubishi Galant-I think Mitsu sells 3,000-4000 Galants a month. I think the Eclipse actually outsold the Galant 1 or 2 times during the last few months. The car is way overstyled on the exterior and the interior is cheap. This is how bad Galant sales are: in the 2004 model year the Mazda 6 sold 72K units(thats a low number for the midsize class) and the Galant sold 43K units.

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