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729 messages, Last post on May 08, 2006 at 7:51 AM
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Replying to: geo9 (Apr 05, 2006 7:20 am) They've been around since, when? Early 90s Maximas? -juice
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 05, 2006 11:20 am) |
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Nissan/Infiniti has a lot of models with first and second year issues they later refine in year three. The Armada problems do not surprise me. My friend bought one for his business and took Herb Gordan Nissan in Rockville, MD to court to force a buyback  . The 2001 Nissan XTerra (nicknamed the "XTerrable") was a peice of garbage and Nissan refined it so much that it is now ranking very high (#1 or #2). That only took Nissan five years. I have an '03 G35 which was one of the first 2,100 produced. It had so many problems that Infiniti was forced to replace just about every working part except the engine. Now it runs fantastic. This took a lot of pain and effort on my part to legally make Infiniti fix the problems. Many others with the '03 G35 sedan had issues. So much for the Motor Trend car of the year? Now, the 2006 model is almost flawless and people love it. This took three years so Nissan/Infiniti is improving! The '02 Jaguar X-Type 3.0 was such a junker that Jaguar replaced many units without being forced by external entities. Most issues were fixed by '03. Jaguar/Ford is used to junkers, so it only takes a year to fix most units. The kicker is Nissan/Infiniti rarely does anything to help the consumer unless forced by the government or legal action. I will NEVER purchase Nissan/Infiniti again. Love their styling, but dislike their insolent behavior towards the customer after sale. This is nothing like Honda/Acura and Toyota/Lexus who usually have first year production winners. One major exception is the previous generation of Acura TL which had transmission problems. I seriously doubt we will see problems with the '08 Camry. How many issues are there with Toyota trucks? The Honda Pilot and Ridgeline were winners from the beginning, etc.... Why does Honda have five models ranked at the top of their class? Even Hyundai is catching-up to the #3 Japanese car maker: Nissan/Infiniti. Hyundai may even give Honda and Toyota a run in a few years. Enough rambling...just no surprise Nissan would produce garbage like the Armada. Just because it is Japanese does not mean it is a good product. |
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Replying to: msiseng (Apr 13, 2006 7:31 am) -juice |
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Replying to: msiseng (Apr 13, 2006 7:31 am) But they are certainly not perfect either, but neither are H/T. This coming from a supporter of those brands... 
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Apr 13, 2006 7:54 am) Having driven it for only about 120 miles (it was a loaner, and had about 10000 miles on the odo), I noticed three issues with the interior, and one potential issue with transmission. The speedometer would to get stuck between 40 and 55 mph (and will stay there even when barely rolling to a stop). The central armrest/cupholder assembly was wobbly, and the lid was flimsy. As for the transmission, the car just couldn't decided which gear it wanted to be in, and would come back with a jerk after the car was stopped. This is besides the rest of my experience behind the wheel which wasn't good either... steering was too light, more so at higher speeds, the car felt too tall and narrow, and tires that hated any road surface. And I had heard the interior quality was improved! I wonder what 2002-2005 versions were like.
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Replying to: msiseng (Apr 13, 2006 7:31 am)
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Replying to: chuck1959 (Apr 13, 2006 4:54 pm) |
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here's a pic of a 2002 Altima S interior. Here's a 2005 Altima SL interior. Now this isn't a totally fair comparison, because the SL is trimmed better, but to me it looks like they cleaned up the interior a bit. I don't know if the actual materials are any better, but I think they just made it all flow a bit better. I think they also improved the gaps and alignment of the various panels and such, too. The main thing I don't like is the gauge cluster, which looks like you could easily just pop it off of the dash, but then I don't really care for the '02-04 style, either, which just looks like a cancerous bump. |
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The only thing I like better about the 02 is the steering wheel, because it doesn't have that fake aluminum trim (pluminum?). The new one just debuted at NY yesterday. -juice |
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