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729 messages, Last post on May 08, 2006 at 7:51 AM
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Replying to: bigdveedubgirl (Mar 31, 2006 11:37 am)  Rocky |
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 31, 2006 2:03 pm) I agree with Geo in that the '04 and '05 models had a lot of problems, and Nissan is paying the price with a lot of bad press. My guess is that Nissan has solved most if not all of the problems by now. I'd be very leary of buying an '04/'05 model, but not an '06 model. Bob |
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How do you guys think mazda is doing.....thier new sedans are really sporty looking, like the mazda 3, and the mazda 6. also, i hear that they are releasing the mazda 9 in a couple of years, which is a replacement to the earlier 929 and millenia. i dont think they are doing to bad....just thier b-series should be taken off and replaced with something of mazda's own creativity, instead of basing it off of the ford ranger (blah). but what do you guys think?
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Replying to: stryker5671 (Apr 02, 2006 12:31 pm) I'd say any judgments as to Mazda's success or lack thereof will have to wait until we see how the CX-7 does. The same's true for the Mazda5, which is still pretty new to the market. Finally, I'm puzzled by Mazda's decision to yank the Tribute off the market for MY'07 and bring it back only slightly revised for MY'08. |
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noticed the first lease promo on Mazda3s that I have seen in the entire model run. I guess sales must FINALLY be slowing down on that model. This is what, its third or fourth model year of the current run? That has been the opposite of a flop for Mazda. boaz: "But they have been down on the Bottom of the JD Powers dependability list so long that with the exception of KIA we could award them the place as their benchmark. Two of the brands that rate higher than VW are Isuzu, with almost no customer base and Daewoo which is discontinued. Daewoo customers must still like them better." LMAO! Don't do that man, I almost choked on my food! 
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 03, 2006 12:08 pm) |
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If they have a great running gear what has caused all the bad press? Fair question. I followed the Armada threads early on and roof buffeting was the big issue, at least back then. The noise was intolerable to some people. Some had dealers add epoxy to try to get the sheet metal to adhere to the B-pillars better. I noticed an interior that looked "budget" to me, so this didn't surprise me. The 3rd row didn't split fold, either. The misses were in the interior. I never complained about the running gear, in fact I test drove one and it impressed the heck out of me. geo9: "driveline issues" is extremely vague, what specific problems did you observe? Mazda6 had a stumble at the start with that "staining", i.e. rust on the door jambs. The MazdaSpeed6 has a heat soak issue and loses power, so it's still having problems. I think the biggest problem is that it's playing the red-headed step-sister to the Fusion, which got a longer wheelbase and is more up-to-date. The Zephyr replacement will get the 3.5l first, too. I would not call it a flop, though. It's just getting along in age and should be replaced soon. -juice
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 04, 2006 8:24 am) Ask Jolie in the CCB thread ! Not to mention the titan, Q and armadas threads here at edmunds and titantalk.com.............. Been a tough 3 years for those vehicles! |
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for the Titan/Armada platform is that, even if those two models aren't setting the world on fire, Nissan is getting a lot of use out of the basic setup. Nowadays it serves as the basis for the Frontier pickup as well as the Pathfinder and even the Xterra.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 05, 2006 5:27 am) plant use only 4 & 6 cyl. engines and I can assume different trans. and rearends than the others. They both sell quite well and I don't notice as many complaints on assembly, quality, or driveline issues like the others. Not to mention their resale value is quite strong compared to their big brother models according to the sales guys at the Smart Shopper threads.
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