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#65 of 729 Re: Gambit [varmint] by prosa Nov 22, 2005 (1:25 pm)
Replying to: varmint (Nov 22, 2005 10:37 am) They need to start with a smaller, lighter, less ambitious SUV, then build a bigger version once acceptance is gained. Just a thought.    Don't let the Forester owners see that.   As a (proud) new Forester owner, I'd have to disagree. Foresters may be classified as SUV's for emissions and safety-testing purposes but don't really compete for the same buyers. While their seating position is higher than on an ordinary sedan, it is not as high as on a true SUV; seating position is what counts, because it's one of the main motivations - if not the motivation - behind SUV purchases. While some Forester buyers may have considered small SUV's such as Escapes and CR-V's, I believe that most had considered sedans but decided to get something a bit different, with more carrying capacity.
#66 of 729 Re: styling styling styling [chuck1] by jlawrence01 Nov 22, 2005 (2:03 pm)
Replying to: chuck1 (Nov 22, 2005 12:30 pm) Translated - The 500's are not selling well to the public-we have to keep the assembly lines moving - let's blow them out to the rental companies, fleets, etc.   They held the Taurus for an extra year - and probably would have like to kept it for 2-3 more years - in the Fleet sales. However, they were having problems selling the Taurus anymore due to remarketing issues. It is hard to ditch an old model and get any reasonable return for it.   As a fleet manager, I am looking for a reliable car that will be cheap to operate at a good price. I don't care that much about the styling as long as it fits four people. For the most part, I am buying transportation at a good price. And had I had a lower priced option in that category from GM or Chrysler, I would go that way.
#67 of 729 You caught me with the Forester! by callmedrfill Nov 22, 2005 (2:28 pm)
Never even crossed my mind!      But I did leave out the impressively ugly coprorate grille that is replicating throughout the lineup like a malignancy.      RE: the Cayenne, 1000 sales a month is still pretty strong when you look at it's price point. If sales are down, that means it was overachieving for awhile.      You know, another sales disappointment to me is the 4Runner. It's is losing ground to a 5 year-old Highlander!      DrFill Replies to this message: andys120 (Nov 22, 2005 3:17 pm)
#68 of 729 Re: You caught me with the Forester! [callmedrfill] by andys120 Nov 22, 2005 (3:17 pm)
Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 22, 2005 2:28 pm) You know, another sales disappointment to me is the 4Runner. It's is losing ground to a 5 year-old Highlander!   Hardly surprising, crossover sales are hot truck-SUVs are not.
#69 of 729 Re: Luxury trade-ins up.... [andys120] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Nov 22, 2005 (4:33 pm)
Replying to: andys120 (Nov 22, 2005 8:07 am) You could always buy a Jaguar cheap in the used car market, that's nothin' new.
#70 of 729 VW Phaeton? by martian Nov 23, 2005 (6:28 am)
Just what was Wolfsburg thinking with this bomb? A VW for close to 100K $? Who in that market segment would consider a VW? Its like the Taureg/Cayeen situation: why pay 10K$ more for a VW with a Porsche badge on it? The two cars are practically identical-this is repeating what GM has been doing for years (badge engineering). Only, it doesn't make sense in the world of high-priced barnds. Replies to this message: 210delray (Nov 23, 2005 7:27 am) anythngbutgm (Nov 23, 2005 8:59 am)
#71 of 729 Re: VW Phaeton? [martian] by 210delray Nov 23, 2005 (7:27 am)
Replying to: martian (Nov 23, 2005 6:28 am) Well, everyone knows it was Herr Piech's baby. Certainly his underlings had their doubts about bringing this car to market, but who's to argue with the big cheese? Maybe VW should have called it the Piech to satiate his big ego.
#72 of 729 Re: Simple percentage drops [pf_flyer] by chuck1959 Nov 23, 2005 (8:06 am)
Replying to: pf_flyer (Nov 19, 2005 6:25 am) I've only seen a few G class as well. I'm guessing the sales haven't varied much on them one way or the other. The cars on the top ten list all had significant percentage sales drops.   It's not a surrpise to me. The G starts at $78,900 to $80,900.....the AMG version $101,400 to $104,500
#73 of 729 Re: VW Phaeton? [martian] by anythngbutgm Nov 23, 2005 (8:59 am)
Replying to: martian (Nov 23, 2005 6:28 am) You'd think people would have learned from the Cimarron
#74 of 729 Re: Andys [esf] by lemko Nov 23, 2005 (10:14 am)
Replying to: esf (Nov 22, 2005 1:12 pm) Isn't there a cheap Malaysian car called the Photon? They could sell a million of these to Trekkies if they had a model called the Photon Torpedo. Replies to this message: varmint (Nov 23, 2005 10:28 am)

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