Sign In Join 



Sales Flops of 2005

729 messages,  Last post on May 08, 2006 at 7:51 AM

You are in the Automotive News & Views Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & claires

What is this discussion about? Car Buying


Messages Page 2 of 74
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
...
74
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#7 of 729
Simple percentage drops by pf_flyer HOST
Nov 19, 2005 (6:25 am)
Reply
I've only seen a few G class as well. I'm guessing the sales haven't varied much on them one way or the other. The cars on the top ten list all had significant percentage sales drops.
#8 of 729
. by fintail
Nov 19, 2005 (11:52 am)
Reply
Yeah some of those are old and due for replacement. Like the CL and the Monte, everyone knows a new one is coming, and most people who want a current one have already bought one.
 
G-wagen came out here for MY 2001 or so, I see them fairly regularly in my neighborhood, but I'll admit it's not a normal place.
#9 of 729
Re: Sales Flops of 2005 [pf_flyer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 19, 2005 (3:20 pm)
Reply

Replying to: pf_flyer (Nov 18, 2005 12:28 pm)

No surprises at all. They are all, to a car, either tired old models that people are tired of, (Montero, Audi TT, Monte Carlo) or grossly mis-marketed cars IMO, that never had an audience to begin with (the rest of them. Also is no surprise that most of them have a very mediocre reputation. ( or worse, like the Jaguar X-Type and the Land Rover)
 
There's not a car on that list that doesn't deserve to die for one reason or another.
#10 of 729
what about by nippononly
Nov 20, 2005 (12:50 am)
Reply
the cars that have been on the market a year or less, brought out with much fanfare, oftentimes to the tune of "THIS time, we really got it right and we're sure this will be a hit", only to find stagnant sales or even declines, or missing sales forecasts badly?
 
I can think of a few off the top of my head, with varying degrees of up-to-datedness:
 
Acura RL (running, I think, at roughly half the volume Acura was hoping for with the much-revised model)
 
Subaru Tribeca (production cuts set at 50% beginning in the new year)
 
Everything Saab that is a rebadged something else
 
Heck, toss in the 9-3 for good measure: it has been around more than 12 months IIRC, but it certainly hasn't measured up to the hopes they had for sales
 
Q45 - poor ol' Infiniti. I forget how long ago the last model update was, but it wasn't that long ago and there was a lot of fanfare with that one. They continue to sell at a rate of roughly 1000 a year - why bother?
 
Need I mention the all-new Jetta, the car that was going to "grow up" the VW image overnight? Now the new Passat is busy following in its footsteps. And thank GOODNESS they cancelled the Phaeton.
 
And for this space, same time next year, let's mention the Grand Vitara, released with more hoopla than I can remember from Suzuki in forever, and already every reviewer hates it. And the Range Rover Sport, another case of why bother. And possibly the Honda Ridgeline and the Buick Lucerne, both of which will sell in decent numbers but will fall short of their manufacturers' hopes and dreams by a goodly amount. Oh yeah, and add the Torrent on that last count. I would mention the new Mercury/Lincoln Fusion clones, but does Ford even have hopes and dreams for Lincoln/Mercury any more? Final entry and then I will quit: the new Jeep (what is it? Commander or something?). It is so similar to Grand Cherokee in mission, all it will do is suck a few sales away from the GC before falling into automotive oblivion.
 
So sayeth the sage...
 
#11 of 729
Re: what about [nippononly] by andys120
Nov 20, 2005 (6:49 am)
Reply

Replying to: nippononly (Nov 20, 2005 12:50 am)

It's too early to say if the Commander is a flop, likewise the Milan/Zephyr and the new Passat.
 
OTOH the Buick Lacrosse is pretty rare even though it's been out for a year. The
Infiniti M35/45 doesn't seen to be any more prevalent than the Acura RL so sales of them have to be disappointing.
#12 of 729
. by fintail
Nov 20, 2005 (10:11 am)
Reply
I see the new M quite a bit in my area, much more than the strangely dull looking JDM style old M, and probably 5 or 10 times more often than a new RL. Around here, the G is very trendy, so I think this might be an offshoot.
#13 of 729
Nippon by varmint
Nov 20, 2005 (3:52 pm)
Reply
The RL is on track track to sell about 18K units this year. They forecast 20K, IIRC. So they're off by about 10%. The Ridgeline is off by 6%.
 
Have to agree with you on the Saabs, though.
 
Andys120, I haven't seen recent sales figures, but the M35/45 was selling as well as the Lexus GS and others in the class. I dunno what Infiniti projected, but I gotta figure it's doing well enough.
#14 of 729
I'm starting to see... by andre1969
Nov 20, 2005 (4:02 pm)
Reply
more LaCrosses finally. Their popularity may be a regional thing, and I'm guessing a lot of them do still go into rental fleets, but I've heard that nationwide, the LaCrosse is selling about as well as the Century/Regal used to.
 
I haven't seen the Grand Vitara yet, except for that commercial where the dude skydives out of his house. I almost hate to admit it, but I think it's actually pretty attractive! I think it's one of the better looking SUVs out there nowadays. There's just something nice and clean about its styling. Still, style will only get you so far, and according to the buff rags, there are much better buys out there.
 
I don't see Acura RLs very often, but then they're styling just blends in. They're easy to miss. As for Infinitis, I don't think I see ANY kind of Infiniti on a regular basis, except for this green I30 that one of the secretaries at work drives.
#15 of 729
Nippon: by jrosasmc
Nov 20, 2005 (5:25 pm)
Reply
Yes, the new Jeep is the Commander. And I think it will be a huge hit, especially with the Jeep faithful such as my dad, who thinks it is the most gorgeous SUV on the market.
#16 of 729
Re: Nippon: [jrosasmc] by 210delray
Nov 20, 2005 (5:39 pm)
Reply

Replying to: jrosasmc (Nov 20, 2005 5:25 pm)

I really doubt the Commander will be successful. It's only 2 inches longer than the Grand Cherokee and 4 inches taller.
 
All reviewers have commented that the third seat is a joke for anyone larger than a small child.
 
So unless you really like the squared off styling or have small children that can fit in the rearmost seats, there's really no point in buying one in place of the Grand Cherokee.

Messages Page 2 of 74
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
...
74
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement