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Sales Flops of 2005

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Re: Andys [callmedrfill] by prosa
Nov 22, 2005 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 21, 2005 8:36 pm)

That Subaru SUV is a pretty bad idea:
A. Too heavy for their CAR engines to support.
B. Too pricey for their clientele to support.
C. Too late to the SUV party!

 
Pricing should not have been such an obstacle. Base model B9 Tribecas, the 5-passenger versions with cloth upholstery, can be purchased for about $29,000. That's less than some Outback models and is fully competitive with the competition. Unfortunately, as I've noted before, base models are very difficult to find. Almost all the 'becas on dealer lots are the 7-passenger versions with leather, priced in the mid-30's.
Getting beyond just Subaru, what is this obsession with 7-passenger seating? Leave out for now the fact that 7-passenger seating usually means normal seating for five and two microscopic seats suitable only for small children. Birth rates are low enough that few families really need more than five seats. Those that do, can buy minivans or conventional vans. But it seems as if every SUV and crossover tries to shoehorn in those two extra seats - even the new RAV4.
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I just did some digging... by andre1969
Nov 22, 2005 (7:25 am)
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and it looks like the Charger sold
 
5222 units in August
6809 units in September
7119 units in October
 
They also sold the 30,000th Charger in October. Considering the car wasn't introduced until well into May, I guess that's not too bad.
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Re: Andys [callmedrfill] by andys120
Nov 22, 2005 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 21, 2005 8:36 pm)

A link to some sales numbers would have been more useful than a link to someone's random post.
 
My bad, this better?
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Re: styling styling styling [jlawrence01] by andys120
Nov 22, 2005 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Nov 22, 2005 6:40 am)

Here in the State Capitol there's a lot of Ford 500s in the parking lots of Govt. buildings.
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Luxury trade-ins up.... by andys120
Nov 22, 2005 (8:07 am)
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Dealers are seeing more luxury car trade-ins.
 
Here's your chance to buy that Jag cheap!
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Re: styling styling styling [andys120] by jlawrence01
Nov 22, 2005 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Nov 22, 2005 7:58 am)

Here in the State Capitol there's a lot of Ford 500s in the parking lots of Govt. buildings.
 
Some of the deals on the 500s and Ford Fusions that are being offered to fleets are surprising to me ... They are priced to move.
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Gambit by callmedrfill
Nov 22, 2005 (9:01 am)
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    My bad! I thought the versa was the world's ugliest sedan/hatchback! I didn't know it was a "Mini-crossover" (whatever that is). I'll have to "Reverse my thinking".
 
    Prosa
 
    My point was people with $29k+ to spend on an SUV aren't going to beat a path to Subaru, Outback or not. They need to start with a smaller, lighter, less ambitious SUV, then build a bigger version once acceptance is gained. Just a thought.
 
    DrFill
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Re: Luxury trade-ins up.... [andys120] by lemko
Nov 22, 2005 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Nov 22, 2005 8:07 am)

Forget the Jag, gimme the Bentley Arnage in that picture!
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Re: Gambit [callmedrfill] by varmint
Nov 22, 2005 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 22, 2005 9:01 am)

"They need to start with a smaller, lighter, less ambitious SUV, then build a bigger version once acceptance is gained. Just a thought."
 
Don't let the Forester owners see that.
 
The problems with the B9 Tribeca are legion. But you can't hold a discussion on the subject without the word "shnoz" showing up.
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Re: styling styling styling [jlawrence01] by chuck1
Nov 22, 2005 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Nov 22, 2005 8:24 am)

"Some of the deals on the 500s and Ford Fusions that are being offered to fleets are surprising to me ... They are priced to move."
 
Translated - The 500's are not selling well to the public-we have to keep the assembly lines moving - let's blow them out to the rental companies, fleets, etc.
 
This is one of THE MOST boring cars Ford has EVER DESIGNED. I hear it's getting a "makeover" ASAP! Hopefully, before I'm due a new company car next year!

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