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Sales Flops of 2005

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Re: Andys [callmedrfill] by gambit293
Nov 21, 2005 (11:13 pm)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 21, 2005 8:36 pm)

Too early to annoint Nissan Versa "Flop of 2006"?
 
Why would the Versa flop? I think the time of mini-crossovers is arriving. These mini-mini-vans are practical, sporty, and stylish. I would certainly consider one as my next car, and I think a lot of other young people would be interested too.
 
As long as Nissan, Mazda, etc. keep initial sales projections realistic, I think they will succeed. Chrysler was trumpeting absurd Pacifica sales from the start. They should have started low and let true demand determine supply.
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Re: styling styling styling [chuck1] by jlawrence01
Nov 22, 2005 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Nov 21, 2005 10:56 pm)

My company has always leased the Taurus as the company car. They have been told that they can no longer get the Taurus, so a few of the guys have now received the 500.
 
The Taurus was available to fleets ONLY in MY 2005.
 
The prices on the low-end Fusion and the Ford 500 are SIMILAR but *not* the same as the old Taurus. However, fleet prices are like anything - negotiable. For some reason, Ford will give you a lot better price if you agree to buy 2000 units than if you buy 20. (g)
 
i have been running around in a 1997 Ford Taurus the past week as I have had to run some work errands. That model was not as uncomfortable as some of the earlier models (and the 2003 version). I've always hated the cockpit feel.
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Sales numbers vs. Expectations by rorr
Nov 22, 2005 (6:41 am)
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Anybody have any idea how well the Dodge Charger is actually selling vs. the expectations? I know I was surprised to see a fairly large inventory locally within just a few weeks of their introduction.
 
Crossfire also comes to mind.
 
Another slow mover seems to be the RX-8.
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Re: Sales numbers vs. Expectations [rorr] by qbrozen
Nov 22, 2005 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Nov 22, 2005 6:41 am)

RX8 and crossfire are hurting, as far as I've read.
 
Not sure about the Charger. I've seen a few on the roads, but not many. I think alot of people who would have bought the charger already owned 300s.
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Re: Sales numbers vs. Expectations [qbrozen] by prosa
Nov 22, 2005 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 22, 2005 6:45 am)

Dodge is now starting to market specially equipped Chargers to police departments. That could be a sign that "regular" sales are below expectations and therefore that the Charger needs a boost, but I suspect not, if only because the planning for the police version must have started quite some time ago.
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Re: Andys [callmedrfill] by prosa
Nov 22, 2005 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 21, 2005 8:36 pm)

That Subaru SUV is a pretty bad idea:
A. Too heavy for their CAR engines to support.
B. Too pricey for their clientele to support.
C. Too late to the SUV party!

 
Pricing should not have been such an obstacle. Base model B9 Tribecas, the 5-passenger versions with cloth upholstery, can be purchased for about $29,000. That's less than some Outback models and is fully competitive with the competition. Unfortunately, as I've noted before, base models are very difficult to find. Almost all the 'becas on dealer lots are the 7-passenger versions with leather, priced in the mid-30's.
Getting beyond just Subaru, what is this obsession with 7-passenger seating? Leave out for now the fact that 7-passenger seating usually means normal seating for five and two microscopic seats suitable only for small children. Birth rates are low enough that few families really need more than five seats. Those that do, can buy minivans or conventional vans. But it seems as if every SUV and crossover tries to shoehorn in those two extra seats - even the new RAV4.
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I just did some digging... by andre1969
Nov 22, 2005 (7:25 am)
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and it looks like the Charger sold
 
5222 units in August
6809 units in September
7119 units in October
 
They also sold the 30,000th Charger in October. Considering the car wasn't introduced until well into May, I guess that's not too bad.
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Re: Andys [callmedrfill] by andys120
Nov 22, 2005 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 21, 2005 8:36 pm)

A link to some sales numbers would have been more useful than a link to someone's random post.
 
My bad, this better?
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Re: styling styling styling [jlawrence01] by andys120
Nov 22, 2005 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Nov 22, 2005 6:40 am)

Here in the State Capitol there's a lot of Ford 500s in the parking lots of Govt. buildings.
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Luxury trade-ins up.... by andys120
Nov 22, 2005 (8:07 am)
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Dealers are seeing more luxury car trade-ins.
 
Here's your chance to buy that Jag cheap!

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