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Sales Flops of 2005

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Re: styling styling styling [gambit293] by big_prize
Nov 21, 2005 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: gambit293 (Nov 21, 2005 5:30 pm)

For one who has never been a fan of VWs, I actually like the new Jetta and Passat, although I think the Passat is pricing itself out of many people's budgets. Plus, all of the that electronic switchery is annoying! Who needs an electronic parking brake? More like an electronic parking "break" to me.
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Mitsubishi Raider by dave82
Nov 21, 2005 (8:04 pm)
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How about the Mitsubishi Raider? It can't be good if Mitsubishi is already offering $2000 rebates after just one month on the market...
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Re: Porsche Cayenne and VW Tauoreg? [explorerx4] by saabgirl
Nov 21, 2005 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 21, 2005 5:45 pm)

I was at the CT auto show on Friday with my daughter who sat in the Cayenne and said the mustard yellow interior was "Ugliest in Show." The steering wheel looked and felt cheaper than those in the compact pickups.
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Andys by callmedrfill
Nov 21, 2005 (8:36 pm)
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A link to some sales numbers would have been more useful than a link to someone's random post.
 
   If the Cayenne sells 1000 a month at $60k, I'd say it was holding it's own! Lexus LX doesn't do that anymore.
 
   The Range Rover did better after it's redesign, but with the heavy advertising on the $75k Sport (I've never seen such an expensive vehicle marketed so hard!), I'd say the Sport is not doing what Range wants.
 
   Touraeg (I'm guessing) has many things going against it:
 
   1. Stupid name
 
   2. It's smaller than most mid-size SUV's (I've sat in one)
 
   3. Is part of the not-so-successful VW upscale afterbirth, which has claimed the lives of the Photon (another stupid name), and W8 Passat.
 
   4. Sells at premium prices without premium quality (Judging by J.D. Power, and the number of disgruntled VW owners)
 
   No one has brought up the STS?
 
   That Subaru SUV is a pretty bad idea:
 
   A. Too heavy for their CAR engines to support.
 
   B. Too pricey for their clientele to support.
 
   C. Too late to the SUV party!
 
    
   The H3 doing so well is a shock!!!
 
   Wrong time, wrong engine, few incentives, and it has caught on?
 
   Too early to annoint Nissan Versa "Flop of 2006"?
 
   DrFill
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Re: styling styling styling [gambit293] by chuck1
Nov 21, 2005 (10:56 pm)
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Replying to: gambit293 (Nov 21, 2005 5:30 pm)

"If Ford still churning out Tauri? Once they axe that brute, the 500 should get a healthy fleet jolt."
 
My company has always leased the Taurus as the company car. They have been told that they can nolonger get the Taurus, so a few of the guys have now received the 500. I have been told there isn't much difference in (fleet) prices for the 500 vs. the Taurus. I have a Taurus and it has some of the most uncomfortable front seats of any car I have ever owned in recent memory!
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Re: Andys [callmedrfill] by gambit293
Nov 21, 2005 (11:13 pm)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 21, 2005 8:36 pm)

Too early to annoint Nissan Versa "Flop of 2006"?
 
Why would the Versa flop? I think the time of mini-crossovers is arriving. These mini-mini-vans are practical, sporty, and stylish. I would certainly consider one as my next car, and I think a lot of other young people would be interested too.
 
As long as Nissan, Mazda, etc. keep initial sales projections realistic, I think they will succeed. Chrysler was trumpeting absurd Pacifica sales from the start. They should have started low and let true demand determine supply.
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Re: styling styling styling [chuck1] by jlawrence01
Nov 22, 2005 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Nov 21, 2005 10:56 pm)

My company has always leased the Taurus as the company car. They have been told that they can no longer get the Taurus, so a few of the guys have now received the 500.
 
The Taurus was available to fleets ONLY in MY 2005.
 
The prices on the low-end Fusion and the Ford 500 are SIMILAR but *not* the same as the old Taurus. However, fleet prices are like anything - negotiable. For some reason, Ford will give you a lot better price if you agree to buy 2000 units than if you buy 20. (g)
 
i have been running around in a 1997 Ford Taurus the past week as I have had to run some work errands. That model was not as uncomfortable as some of the earlier models (and the 2003 version). I've always hated the cockpit feel.
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Sales numbers vs. Expectations by rorr
Nov 22, 2005 (6:41 am)
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Anybody have any idea how well the Dodge Charger is actually selling vs. the expectations? I know I was surprised to see a fairly large inventory locally within just a few weeks of their introduction.
 
Crossfire also comes to mind.
 
Another slow mover seems to be the RX-8.
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Re: Sales numbers vs. Expectations [rorr] by qbrozen
Nov 22, 2005 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Nov 22, 2005 6:41 am)

RX8 and crossfire are hurting, as far as I've read.
 
Not sure about the Charger. I've seen a few on the roads, but not many. I think alot of people who would have bought the charger already owned 300s.
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Re: Sales numbers vs. Expectations [qbrozen] by prosa
Nov 22, 2005 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 22, 2005 6:45 am)

Dodge is now starting to market specially equipped Chargers to police departments. That could be a sign that "regular" sales are below expectations and therefore that the Charger needs a boost, but I suspect not, if only because the planning for the police version must have started quite some time ago.

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