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Sales Flops of 2005

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Re: How about.... [volvodan1] by chuck1
Nov 21, 2005 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: volvodan1 (Nov 21, 2005 2:59 pm)

Aveo is doing well.
 
I have read the Aveo is GM's biggest seller.
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styling styling styling by gambit293
Nov 21, 2005 (5:30 pm)
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To me, it's all in the styling. IMO, Subaru and VW have shot themselves in the feet by picking basically fugly designs and slapping them on their entire line-ups. I wouldn't at all be surprised if both companies are forced to restyle much earlier than planned.
 
If Ford still churning out Tauri? Once they axe that brute, the 500 should get a healthy fleet jolt.
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Re: Porsche Cayenne and VW Tauoreg? [varmint] by explorerx4
Nov 21, 2005 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: varmint (Nov 21, 2005 1:10 pm)

speaking the cayenne, there was one at the auto show we went to yesterday. one of my kids came running over to me and said "you have to the the porsche suv over there." i said i had seen it before(previous show), so why again?
she says, "it's the interior, it's sprayed on tan gone wrong!". when i looked at it, it was! barf.
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Make no mistake.... by andys120
Nov 21, 2005 (5:51 pm)
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Cayenne sales are in the tank.
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Re: styling styling styling [gambit293] by big_prize
Nov 21, 2005 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: gambit293 (Nov 21, 2005 5:30 pm)

For one who has never been a fan of VWs, I actually like the new Jetta and Passat, although I think the Passat is pricing itself out of many people's budgets. Plus, all of the that electronic switchery is annoying! Who needs an electronic parking brake? More like an electronic parking "break" to me.
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Mitsubishi Raider by dave82
Nov 21, 2005 (8:04 pm)
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How about the Mitsubishi Raider? It can't be good if Mitsubishi is already offering $2000 rebates after just one month on the market...
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Re: Porsche Cayenne and VW Tauoreg? [explorerx4] by saabgirl
Nov 21, 2005 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 21, 2005 5:45 pm)

I was at the CT auto show on Friday with my daughter who sat in the Cayenne and said the mustard yellow interior was "Ugliest in Show." The steering wheel looked and felt cheaper than those in the compact pickups.
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Andys by callmedrfill
Nov 21, 2005 (8:36 pm)
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A link to some sales numbers would have been more useful than a link to someone's random post.
 
   If the Cayenne sells 1000 a month at $60k, I'd say it was holding it's own! Lexus LX doesn't do that anymore.
 
   The Range Rover did better after it's redesign, but with the heavy advertising on the $75k Sport (I've never seen such an expensive vehicle marketed so hard!), I'd say the Sport is not doing what Range wants.
 
   Touraeg (I'm guessing) has many things going against it:
 
   1. Stupid name
 
   2. It's smaller than most mid-size SUV's (I've sat in one)
 
   3. Is part of the not-so-successful VW upscale afterbirth, which has claimed the lives of the Photon (another stupid name), and W8 Passat.
 
   4. Sells at premium prices without premium quality (Judging by J.D. Power, and the number of disgruntled VW owners)
 
   No one has brought up the STS?
 
   That Subaru SUV is a pretty bad idea:
 
   A. Too heavy for their CAR engines to support.
 
   B. Too pricey for their clientele to support.
 
   C. Too late to the SUV party!
 
    
   The H3 doing so well is a shock!!!
 
   Wrong time, wrong engine, few incentives, and it has caught on?
 
   Too early to annoint Nissan Versa "Flop of 2006"?
 
   DrFill
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Re: styling styling styling [gambit293] by chuck1
Nov 21, 2005 (10:56 pm)
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Replying to: gambit293 (Nov 21, 2005 5:30 pm)

"If Ford still churning out Tauri? Once they axe that brute, the 500 should get a healthy fleet jolt."
 
My company has always leased the Taurus as the company car. They have been told that they can nolonger get the Taurus, so a few of the guys have now received the 500. I have been told there isn't much difference in (fleet) prices for the 500 vs. the Taurus. I have a Taurus and it has some of the most uncomfortable front seats of any car I have ever owned in recent memory!
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Re: Andys [callmedrfill] by gambit293
Nov 21, 2005 (11:13 pm)
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 21, 2005 8:36 pm)

Too early to annoint Nissan Versa "Flop of 2006"?
 
Why would the Versa flop? I think the time of mini-crossovers is arriving. These mini-mini-vans are practical, sporty, and stylish. I would certainly consider one as my next car, and I think a lot of other young people would be interested too.
 
As long as Nissan, Mazda, etc. keep initial sales projections realistic, I think they will succeed. Chrysler was trumpeting absurd Pacifica sales from the start. They should have started low and let true demand determine supply.

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