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Sales Flops of 2005

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Re: how about... [au94] by prosa
Nov 21, 2005 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: au94 (Nov 21, 2005 7:09 am)

There have been rumors that Ford is going to drop the Freestyle. Dunno if they're true, but I certainly don't see many of them on the road. 500's are slightly more common but certainly not as common as they should be.
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I think Chrysler learned a bit... by andre1969
Nov 21, 2005 (7:23 am)
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from their mistake on the Pacifica. Took them a long time to learn though, because they did the same thing with the Reliant/Aries in 1981, and the Aspen/Volare in 1976!
 
When the 300 came out, Chrysler had more of a variety in stock. Also, it seemed like they didn't flood the lots with them at first...they let them trickle in to see which ones the customers wanted. And in a rare occurence, it turns out this was one model where a good chunk of the buyers WANTED the pricier trim level! For awhile, something like 40% of 300 sales were the Hemi C model, leaving the three cheaper lines to scrap for the remaining 60%. In contrast, the vast majority of Intrepids and Concordes were usually the cheapest trim line. And even with cars like the Accord, Camry, and Altima, the top trim levels usually only account for a relative handful of sales.
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Re: I think Chrysler learned a bit... [andre1969] by au94
Nov 21, 2005 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 21, 2005 7:23 am)

thats the beauty of the Honda and Toyota marketing plans.
 
They sell the high volume models (think Accord LX, Camry LE) at a great price and well equipped to the majority of their buyers. But for the percentage that wants a baby Lexus or Acura, they can have a V-6, leather clad offering available as well. All off the same platform, same factory etc.
 
This allows them to make larger margins on the meat and potatoes of the line up, but still not turn off a potential buyer with a few more bucks in their pocket.
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Porsche Cayenne and VW Tauoreg? by martian
Nov 21, 2005 (12:20 pm)
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Did I spell that right? I hardly ever see these SUVs on the road-are they selling well? Is the rebading issue hurting the cayenne's sales? Whatever, they appear to be very gas-thirsty and ugly to boot-why pay more for one of these when you can get a better SUV for less money?
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Re: Porsche Cayenne and VW Tauoreg? [martian] by qbrozen
Nov 21, 2005 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: martian (Nov 21, 2005 12:20 pm)

actually, i see a relatively large number of cayenne's here in central Jersey. More often than i see toureags (i'm unsure of the spelling as well). As a matter of fact, the only Porsche I see more of is the Boxster. Its quite surprising.
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Now that I think about it... by andre1969
Nov 21, 2005 (12:46 pm)
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I think I see the Cayenne a bit more often than the Touraeg ( I had to look it up ) as well.
 
According to http://www.aicautosite.com/editoria/asmr/svsuv.asp, the Touraeg does outsell the Cayenne...through August 31 the VW sold 11,994 units, vs 8,806 for the Porsche. Not a bad showing overall, though, considering SUVs were a new territory for both of them (well, there was the VW Thing!) I thought the Touraeg was cool from the moment I saw it, but I figured the Cayenne would be a total flop.
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Re: Now that I think about it... [andre1969] by prosa
Nov 21, 2005 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 21, 2005 12:46 pm)

VW claims that Touareg sales are meeting expectations. Maybe so, but to keep things in perspective note that RX300 sales are triple that of the Touraeg's, and MDX sales more than double.
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Re: Porsche Cayenne and VW Tauoreg? [martian] by varmint
Nov 21, 2005 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: martian (Nov 21, 2005 12:20 pm)

The Cayenne is selling just fine. I mean, it's sort of in a class of it's own. Porsche doesn't sell on high volume, so 1,000+ units each month is pretty good for them.
 
The Touareg isn't doing quite so hot. Although a sister vehicle to the Cayenne, the Touareg competes more directly with the X5, RX330, and MDX. The V-dub's sales don't come close to what the market will bear.
 
edit: Prosa beat me to the point.
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How about.... by goodegg
Nov 21, 2005 (2:50 pm)
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the Aveo? (is that an 05?) - or the Cobalt (nobalt)- or the Terraza - the Lancer - the Outlander........ anything Isuzu - or the Ford F150 (just kidding)
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Re: How about.... [goodegg] by volvodan1
Nov 21, 2005 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: goodegg (Nov 21, 2005 2:50 pm)

Somebody here will have the #'s, but I think the Aveo is doing well and the Cobalt is doing O.K.

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