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Delphi Restructuring A Key To The Industry?

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ROCK by geo9
Feb 02, 2006 (8:32 am)
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We are keeping our fingers crossed here too........
 
My Delphi (boss-white collar) retired uncle has seen his
pension cut in more than 1/2. Not to mention if they DO
go BK all his Delphi stock will be worthless..........
 
My mom and other family members are safe (for now) because they took the GM "golden parachute" buyout when our local
plant closed in the early 90s.
 
The only thing they and I are sweating is our personal
Delphi stock (that we got from the Delphi spinoff)
will also be worthless if the BK happens.............
 
I am still willing to BUY some Delphi stock for
pennies on the dollar and hope they rise again!
 
I did that back in 79 with Chrysler stock and
still have a HANDSOME DCX $$$$ if and when I sell.
 
I don't think the gov't will bail them out as they
did with Chrysler tho.....................
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Re: ROCK [geo9] by imidazol97
Feb 02, 2006 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 02, 2006 8:32 am)

>pension cut in more than 1/2.
 
Can you tell us about his pension? What did it used to be and what benefits come with it?
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Re: ROCK [imidazol97] by geo9
Feb 03, 2006 (12:18 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 02, 2006 9:20 am)

Ya know............I really don't ask exactly how much
he actually got or gets now..............
But he sometimes gets on a "jag" and talks about it!
Not to mention most of his savings will be lost if Delphi
goes BK..............
 
I do know my mom gets a stout $1400 a month GM pension
plus SS so I can only guess what he got/gets now.......
 
WOW........If its 1/2 of that..........
OR if Delphi goes BK and he gets pushed into the govt. run retirement takeover plan. He will get even less! BUMMER!
 
He sez he should of stayed the blue collar routine and
took the golden parachute buyout like my mom and uncles
did instead of going white collar and transfering with
Delphi !!!!!!!!!!
 
BTW: GM has cut med. bennies, raised deducts./co-pays
etc.and are pushing the retirees off to Medicare/medicade
where ever they can to slash expenses.............
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Re: ROCK [geo9] by dieselone
Feb 03, 2006 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 03, 2006 12:18 am)

There are quite a few variables that go into figuring what your pension would be reduced to through the PBGC. Such as length of employment, and age, etc.
 
PBGC Is a good place to look if your interested.
 
My FIL had 31 years in at LTV when they went bankrupt. I think his original pension was around $2200 and because he was only 55, his PBGC payout is around 60%.
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Re: ROCK [geo9] by imidazol97
Feb 03, 2006 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 03, 2006 12:18 am)

I've heard 100% pension mentioned for those who have a lot of years in with GM. So I wondered what kind of expense number that was for the company (Delphi and the fund).
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Re: ROCK [imidazol97] by geo9
Feb 03, 2006 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 03, 2006 6:42 am)

When the blue collar folks got the buyout.
They had to have x amt. of years in plus be 55 years old
to collect the GM $$$$.
 
Plus they got x for each year service........
My mom had 20.
And believe me SHE was pushing the guys outta line to be
the 1st to sign the papers to get outta that place......
CHUCKLE!
 
Not quite sure of the exact amounts tho. (15 years ago!)
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Re: ROCK [geo9] by rockylee
Feb 03, 2006 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 02, 2006 8:32 am)

The Delphi Stock is a risk. I'd wait until Feb. 15th since it doesn't look real good. Miller vs. UAW prize fight will be interesting but another sad day for middle america.
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Re: ROCK [geo9] by rockylee
Feb 03, 2006 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: geo9 (Feb 02, 2006 8:32 am)

So am I (fingers crossed)-> My 3 yr. away to retirement Delphi Father, 2 Delphi/GM retired uncles, 1 GM almost retired uncle, 1 Delphi almost retired uncle, 1 almost retired GM aunt, 1 retired GM grandfather, GM step grandfather whom is dead but my stepgrandmother is still alive and depends on my step-grandfathers pension, Delphi cousin, and many friends, are downright praying for the best.
 
My other GM grandfather whom is dead I guess is lucky he never saw the "doom and gloom" (Dubya days) at GM and Delphi.
 
Rocky
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Delphi contract UPDATE by rockylee
Feb 07, 2006 (4:52 pm)
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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060207/UPDATE/602070426
 
Rocky
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Re: ROCK [rockylee] by imidazol97
Feb 07, 2006 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 03, 2006 10:57 am)

>(Dubya days)
 
What does that mean?

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