Last post on Aug 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM
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Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Ford Five Hundred, Chevrolet Impala, Ford Taurus, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#851 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [ncee]
Feb 05, 2009 (7:28 am)
The Avalon is what I'd likely have bought in 2006, but Toyota wouldn't budge on the price (then) and when I test drove the Azera and talked price with the Hyundai dealer, I drove off in a new Azera Limited, six or seven thousand $s to the good.
Still happy as a clam with a tad under 35k miles, but I agree that it'll be years yet before the resale value is comparable with Toyota/Lexus/Honda/Accura. Fortunately for me, I keep a car "forever," 20 years with my 1977 Accord, 16 years with my 1990 Accord...
#852 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [ncee]
Feb 08, 2009 (3:32 pm)
In my mind, it would depend a lot on whether I have to drive in snow on a regular basis. FWD, as offered in the Avalon ( and Azera ) will be much better in the snow than the RWD Genesis.
As far as resale value, yeah, used Toyotas fetch more money, but they also cost more in the first place than a comparable Hyundai.
#853 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [gamleged]
Feb 16, 2009 (11:21 am)
I agree that it'll be years yet before the resale value is comparable with Toyota/Lexus/Honda/Accura. Fortunately for me, I keep a car "forever," 20 years with my 1977 Accord, 16 years with my 1990 Accord...
That's great, unless somebody totals your car. Hopefully you never experience that, but if you do, the amount you get from the insurance company might break your heart! I've seen it happen with my aunt who owned a Dodge, and got dirt in return when her vehicle was totaled. It was 11 years ago, but it was enough to make her go to a Honda for its resale (and the then-new CR-V ). She really took a bath with that Dodge and its poor resale. it was only 3 years old.
#854 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [thegraduate]
Feb 17, 2009 (4:35 am)
I certainly wouldn't let fear of totaling my car, as relates to residual value, be a determining factor in my purchase. Vehicle safety systems such as crashworthiness, stabilty control, etc., are important to me, for sure, but not cost replacement.
I've been driving for nearly half a century and had a total of two minor fender benders in that time. My lack of concern for my car occupying the same space as another is why I keep my insurance deductables at $1000 in order to keep more money in my pocket.
Besides, you're going to pay more money initially for your comparable Honda or Toyota ( higher MSRP and lower discounting ) than a Hyundai. What's important is cost difference, not how much the totalled car is worth.
#855 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [cobrazera]
Feb 17, 2009 (8:34 am)
I guess I'm cynical. In my 6 years of driving, being rear-ended twice, run off the road once, and clipped at 75MPH has me thinking about things such as car wrecks.
Knock on wood, but I've never been ticketed for driving (i go pretty slow), or caused an accident.
#856 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [thegraduate]
Feb 28, 2009 (11:57 am)
Sometimes driving slow can attribute to an accident...especially if you're impeding the flow of traffic and causing cars to "bunch up" on the road. Keep an eye on your rear-view mirrors and as long as you don't see a "wagon train" behind you, drive as slow as you like.
As for resale and insurance, I know at least some insurance companies offer full-replacement value vs. simple book value. I think the difference is retail vs. wholesale. In other words, you could replace the totalled car with a comparable model year and make.
#857 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera (Genesis) vs Toyota Avalon [quietpro]
Feb 28, 2009 (1:56 pm)
"Pretty slow" equates to "5-10mph over the posted limit" most of the time, closer to the limit when in residential zones. I don't, however, RACE to the next red light, and when I can, I'll coast to the current one I see.
I'm not a traffic impeder. I work as a courier part time.
#858 of 863 LEASING PROBLEMS AT HYUNDAI
Apr 10, 2009 (3:56 pm)
In my area at least (Long Island NY) HYUNDAI dealers are ONLY offering leases on GENESIS and GENESIS COUPES. And these are not very good deals, since the residual on these cars is quite poor (as of now). No way to lease an AZERA (which, I believe is in its last model year).
Also, to those who think people who lease are foolish - you should first consider the accounting rules on auto deductions for businesses.
#859 of 863 Re: LEASING PROBLEMS AT HYUNDAI [t8935x]
Apr 11, 2009 (7:15 am)
That makes no sense. Hyundai may be offering only lease incentives on the Genesis (current incentive in Long Island is $399/month), but if you walk in with cash or a pre-arranged loan the dealer would be foolish to turn you away.
The reverse is true for the Azera. Hyundai is offering only financing incentives on the Azera. You could probably find a bank or credit union from whom a lease could be arranged. Azeras have poor residuals. Dealers here are selling '08 Azera Limiteds with only 8,000 miles on them for $19,000. That's a $13,000 drop in only 1 year. You would be better off purchasing an Azera than leasing one. If it is being purchased for all business use, you should be able to write-off some of the depreciation.
#860 of 863 Azera vs Avalon
Jun 21, 2009 (1:46 pm)
When I went shopping for a new car in 2007, after doing my online research, I had decided it would be a Hyundai Azera Limited or a Toyota Avalon . At the time my sister owned a new Avalon, and I drove it before going shopping.
Since I had driven the Avalon, I went to the Hyundai dealer first. The list price on the Avalon was $5000 more than the Azera; after driving the Azera, & finding it comparable in handling, ride comfort, etc, to the Avalon, I didn't even bother going to the Toyota dealership as it would have been a waste of time.
I have not regretted the decision. I am extremely happy with my Azera Limited and will replace it with another Hyundai when the time comes. I would also like to note that I found the transaction at Baytown Hyundai in Baytown, TX, very pleasurable. The salesman and personnel were curtious, knowledgable and informed. Above all, they wanted to sell cars and we were able to negotiate a price that was around $400 over invoice. I have had the car service there since purchase, and have been very happy with the service department also.