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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 28, 2007 2:02 pm) The cars on lots are spec'd out accordingly. If such equipment is not standard, odds are you're not going to find it in large numbers. |
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Replying to: cobrazera (Sep 28, 2007 5:56 pm) Anyone with hearing loss, and there are a lot us (not just old folks) don't care all that much about "killer" stereo systems. Shiny wheels? Yeah, they usually look good but they don't do anything for you when you're driving the car and others only really get to notice them when you're stopped or parked. Safety features and cabin interior (like the grad says) are higher on my list than some exterior feature that might impress someone I don't even know. Frankly, I don't buy a car to try to impress anyone. I buy based upon what I can afford and will give me the most value, comfort, features, dependability, etc for the money.
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Sep 28, 2007 8:08 pm) IMO, the sales manager at the dealership will order cars for the lot equipped with options the average buyer ( who is not really very well informed ) desires and will likely pay extra for. Maybe you don't buy a car to impress other people, but a lot of people do. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 28, 2007 2:02 pm) You may have a good point here. I checked four local dealers only found a handful of XL models and none had SC. Really surprised me, I guess I am so used to seeing the XL come in at just under 30K I assumed SC when in reality they are all equipped with moonroofs instead. I know when I was shopping the Touring and XLS all had SC installed (in a package that includes heated seats) I am in southern NJ just outside Philadelphia.
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Replying to: tjc78 (Sep 29, 2007 4:27 am)
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Replying to: bobber1 (Sep 29, 2007 7:42 am) But one problem with the Avalon Limited with ESC was that they would have to get one from another dealer and it was very far away. So, not as good a deal. Then I had to take my fourth choice color and options I did not want. Ended up with an Azera and got my first choice in color and options. Of course, it was also about $5,000 cheaper comparably, or better, equipped. |
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Replying to: cobrazera (Sep 28, 2007 5:56 pm) What I get out of that is, carmakers know the public wants the safety features, so they hold them hostage to higher trim levels, useless sunroofs, etc, and make 'em pay for everything to get the one thing they really want.
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Replying to: tonycd (Sep 29, 2007 9:59 pm) "they hold them hostage to higher trim levels" manufactures! Time for someone in charge at those 'other' companies to wake up and smell the roses. |
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Replying to: tonycd (Sep 29, 2007 9:59 pm) If you remember it was the same way for ABS. I think GM was one of the first manufacturers to make it standard on base model vehicles. P.S. I like my sunroof! |
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Replying to: bobber1 (Sep 29, 2007 7:42 am) I think to an extent almost all cars today are "safe" Airbags, crumple zones, etc. IMO SC does not make a car any safer, its makes it more likely for someone doing something foolish to get out of trouble. There is a common misunderstanding that SC helps a vehicle handle better. It doesn't. Actually, on a test track it probably takes over before the actual limits of the car.
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