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Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Ford Five Hundred, Chevrolet Impala, Ford Taurus, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#597 of 863 Re: Montego or 500 [barnstormer64]
by captain2
Mar 02, 2007 (12:28 pm)
yeah right - the 500 already is having a great deal of trouble holding its value, can you imagine what will happen to that value when the model is discontinued and replaced by something called the Taurus that happens to have a real engine in it. You won't be able to give away a used 2005-07 500/Montego.
Going one step further - given that the old style 2006 Tauri can be had for $11-12k out of the rental fleets, on what basis are you supposing anybody in their right mind is going to assume that the new 500/Taurus is anything but another cheap Ford?
#598 of 863 CR 2007 Best & Worst Cars
by jcm68
Mar 02, 2007 (10:02 pm)
#599 of 863 Re: CR 2007 Best & Worst Cars [jcm68]
by havalongavalon
Mar 02, 2007 (11:35 pm)
Not surprisingly, the Avalon XLS came on top of its class, and ranked very close to the best Upscale sedans. Good to see that CR's Predicted Reliability rating is back to Above Average. Their Highs and Lows for the Av are right on, too. The rear headroom advantage of the Av over the ES350 is evident, and so is the price difference between these two models.
#600 of 863 Re: CR '07 "Large Sedans"
by dborth
Mar 03, 2007 (3:32 am)
Kia Amanti Highs..."Isolation" ?
#601 of 863 Re: CR 2007 Best & Worst Cars [jcm68]
by snakeweasel
Mar 03, 2007 (6:38 am)
Since its from Consumer Reports I wouldn't put to much stock in that report.
#602 of 863 Re: CR 2007 Best & Worst Cars [snakeweasel]
by quietpro
Mar 03, 2007 (6:50 am)
Since its from Consumer Reports I wouldn't put to much stock in that report.
Neither would I but Toyota buyers love being told how "smart" they are.
#603 of 863 Re: CR 2007 Best & Worst Cars [quietpro]
by gamleged
Mar 03, 2007 (8:42 am)
IF you don't mind the "Lows" of "agility, steering and brake feel"...
Azera owners are feeling pretty self-satisfied, as well, we just need to carry a little extra fuel in a jerry-can or two!
But as for the also-ran Ford 500 and the rest, well...
#604 of 863 Re: CR 2007 Best & Worst Cars [snakeweasel]
by motownusa
Mar 03, 2007 (10:00 am)
What you think about CR doesn't mean diddly sqat. But the fact is, and you may not like it, is that CR does influence people's car buying habit. A bad rating from Consumer Report could be the kiss of death. Consumer Reports is one of the reason Toyota is doing so well. It seems like even with all their quality issues, Toyota still rules the reliability chart.
#605 of 863 Re: Sorry you're not feeling well [alpha01]
by bruneau1
Mar 03, 2007 (12:43 pm)
Well, whatever the case, the renamed Taurus will be a significantly improved vehicle: new engine, transmission, more decoration, vastly improved NVH, etc, etc. It will still be the roomiest, with the biggest trunk, and its handling and ride, already good, will be improved. Its ingress-egress is superior to any of the other vehicles in this exchange and visibility great. Style is a matter of taste and not worth arguing about. Oh, and so far the reliability seems to be acceptable. In case anyone didn't know, problems reported in the CR survey must exceed 3% in order to receive below average. It shows how high standards are today
#606 of 863 Re: CR 2007 Best & Worst Cars [jcm68]
by joe97
Mar 03, 2007 (2:14 pm)
The Azera may be the sleeper in the class; best score in predicted reliability, best score in ownership satisfaction.