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Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Ford Five Hundred, Chevrolet Impala, Ford Taurus, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#491 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [djm2]
Nov 05, 2006 (6:36 am)
I currently drive a 2006 Impala LT (3.5L). My parents recently purchased a 2007 Mercury Montego Premier (traded in their 2003 Impala LS w/sport package). They were also shopping the Hyundai Azera, but the dealer had a $1,495 market adjustment on the Azera and low-balled the trade-in value.
Compared to my Impala, the Montego is a much nicer vehicle overall. Exponentially better build quality and fit and finish. Interior materials sturdier and of higher quality. More controlled ride (based on my opinion as a passenger). Rear seat room is cavernous compared to the Impala. I haven't had any time behind the driver's seat, but they say that the power with the 3.0L engine is perfectly adequate. They also recently got 29mpg on a mostly highway trip.
I have 4,000 miles on my Impala, and do not see it as a vehicle that I will keep more than 36,000 miles or so. Interior build quality is disappointing with numerous creaks and rattles. Gas mileage is not where I was hoping it to be. It is rated at 21city and 31 highway, however I have not seen better than 22-23mpg in mixed driving. I was hoping for 25mpg average. I have been trying to drive much more "gingerly" the past week to see what impact that has, and I did see 24mpg on the average economy gauge briefly. However, as soon as you accelerate to merge with traffic, the mileage drops back down to the 22-23 range.
From a service standpoint, I have only dealt with the Chevy dealer once with my Impala so far and it was a waste of my time. They did the bare minimum to try and resolve my issue (I ended up fixing it myself after they didn't want to/couldn't). My first oil change/tire rotation will be coming up soon. Will have to see how that goes.
My parents have dealt with the Mercury dealer once so far to get an additional key programmed for the Montego and were very impressed with the courtesy and overall level of attention given to them. The Mercury dealer also gives them free oil changes every 5,000 miles for the life of the vehicle. Nice perk.
As a side note, my previous vehicle was a Chrysler product. The Chrysler service department was the absolute best I had ever dealt with. I never had any concerns when I needed to take the vehicle to them.
#492 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [snakeweasel]
Nov 05, 2006 (3:36 pm)
"Who would keep a vehicle for 10 years or 200K?
There is a small (and I believe growing) number of people who do."
Yep.. gotta agree.. currently in my garage are two vehicles, a 2006 GMC Envoy and a 2007 Toyota Avalon.. however, when we bought the Envoy, we traded in a 10 year old Cadillac with 125k miles on it, and when we bought the Avy, I traded in a 15 year old oldsmobile with 160K on it. Surprisingly the Caddy started giving me trouble much sooner than the Olds did, in fact I traded it in when we did because it developed some kind of engine problem where antifreeze was getting into the cylinders and the dealership quoted me between 35 hundred and 4 grand to fix it... say goodbye caddilac... and I traded the olds in simply because it was starting ( just starting ) to nickle and dime me to death and I really didn't feel comfortable putting it on a roadtrip when it was 15 years old...but I gotta tell you, I sure loved driving either of those cars for all the years that we had them where there were no car payments... ah, the good ol days. Now I need to find a second job just to pay for those 2 out there in the garage. Just my thoughts on the subject.
#493 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [djm2]
Nov 05, 2006 (6:31 pm)
I've driven Japanese cars for for 20 years; & everyone has been trouble free for over 150,000 miles.
Last car was a 2002 Mazda Milenia with 208,000 miles on it & "0" repair cost other than normal maintenance. Current ride is an 06 Avalon with over 26,000 miles on it already.
Maintain todays cars properly & you will get 150,000 plus miles out of them with minimal or no problems.
#494 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [bobgwtw]
Nov 06, 2006 (3:32 am)
I agree, most Japanese cars are very reliable. I have run cars 150,000 to 175,000 miles with minimum repairs. Most of the repairs that were required were non power train related, such as A/C, power door lock or window actuators etc.
That is reason I added 100,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty. A/C replacement or window operators can become expensive. Labor at about $80 to $90 per hour run repair bills up fast.
#495 of 863 Consumer Reports rating on the Avalon
Nov 06, 2006 (7:57 am)
Both the 05 and 06 Avalon are rated better than average in reliability ratings. Remember, when the 05 first came out, it had some issues that got it knocked down a step or two in CR's reliability ratings. But looks like they have improved for the 06 model.
#496 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [snakeweasel]
Nov 06, 2006 (3:29 pm)
I would never own a vehicle without an extended warranty. These new "high tech" vehicles are just TOO EXPENSIVE to repair!
would argue the opposite - whether it be mfgr. or 3rd party extended warranties, the folks offering them do make money doing it obviously because the car in question will not (on average) require an amount of repairs equal or greater to the amount charged for the warranty.
Based on actual repair histories and repair costs, a survey of extended warranty costs gives a good indicator of how expensive a vehicle will be to operate over the longer term.
#497 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [captain2]
Nov 06, 2006 (4:58 pm)
I own a 2003 Honda Accord four cylinder automatic with a 7 year 100,000 mile Honda Care extended warranty. I do a lot of driving all over the United States! My vehicle presently has 83,000 miles. To date, the Honda Care Extended Warranty has put in $3,000.00 + worth of repairs. The warranty at the time of purchase was $895.00! I think this was a "GREAT Investment"! ---- What do you think? ---- Best regards. ---- Dwayne
#498 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [djm2]
Nov 06, 2006 (6:32 pm)
My vehicle presently has 83,000 miles. To date, the Honda Care Extended Warranty has put in $3,000.00 + worth of repairs.
I hate to say this but I wouldn't be bragging about that.
#499 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [snakeweasel]
Nov 07, 2006 (3:09 am)
Sometimes,bad things happen to good people.
One never knows what might go wrong with a car, and the extended warranty gives peace of mind with limited down side.
#500 of 863 Re: Hyundai Azera vs Toyota Avalon vs Ford 500 vs Chevrolet Impala [snakeweasel]
Nov 07, 2006 (5:38 am)
What is your point? I had nothing to do with the quality of the component parts that failed! (AC compressor, Cat Converter, Window regulator assembly, Radio display, Motor mounts. ---etc). ---- The vehicle is serviced at the dealer every 3,000 miles. Please explain your position!------Best regards. ---- Dwayne