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#9 of 38 very true by jpvwaudi Nov 14, 2005 (7:44 pm)
I am a salesman myself, but enjoy taking the time to learn my craft and product; I tend to take a more consultive position with my clients.   The driving dynamics are hugely different between the new Passat and A4, more so than the previous generation. The 3.6 VR6 is a fantastic powerplant, but the power overwhelms the front wheels of the new Passat. One of the biggest mistakes I feel that VW made in designing the new Passat was changing the layout of the engine from north-south to east-west. Sure, it gives the car more interior room up front, but it eliminates the four-link front suspension that worked so well to limit tourque-steer in the 98-05 models. To me, the car feels more like a Maxima than it should. They took some of the German out of the Passat. If you're seriously considering the VR6, I would definately wait for the 4Motion. Those cars should be arriving later this month. Replies to this message: edwardsf (Nov 16, 2005 12:15 am) merc1 (Nov 17, 2005 10:38 pm) 150mphclub (Jan 15, 2006 7:34 pm)
#13 of 38 Re: very true [jpvwaudi] by edwardsf Nov 16, 2005 (12:15 am)
Replying to: jpvwaudi (Nov 14, 2005 7:44 pm) Hey, Knock that evenhanded, informed posting off; I might lose some of my stereotypes about car salespeople.   Cereally, do you think that VW/Audi is too eagerly trying to meet the U.S. market demand for HP (as personified in the G25 and TL)? German sedans (and less so Saabs) have that remarkable mix of rosd feel, handling and smoothness that the Japanese - for all their incredible car design abilities - cannot duplicate. Or have they even tried? The Japanese motor car marketers have very cleverly tapped into the power hungry American persona and focused their efforts on HP and 0 to 60 to take a big bite of the sport sedan segment. But I yawn after driving a TL (although not a Euro built TSX) and scratch my head after driving a G35. But I feel a connection to the road and the car after driving the poorly thought of C240. I still think that I would prefer my 1976 Mercury Capri (German-built of course) over a TL....
#14 of 38 Some posts by pat HOST Nov 16, 2005 (6:57 am)
have been moved to the more appropriate place to compare pricing info - here's the link: ask2, "Audi A4: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #523, 15 Nov 2005 12:51 am.   We'll continue to compare the features and attributes of these two vehicles here.
#15 of 38 Re: Audi A4 2005.5 vs VW Passat 3.6 2006 [ask2] by jick Nov 17, 2005 (7:28 am)
Replying to: ask2 (Nov 10, 2005 8:44 pm) I had a 2004 V6 Passat with tiptronic transmission, it was ok, then I drove the new 2006 3.6! Wow what a car! I was in the dealership this past week for a scheduled service and a 2006 Passat 3.6 had just arrived. It came with the Sport Package II: Top of the line seats, fantastic radio with 6 disc CD, 17" rims, and a stiffer suspension. I bought the car, this car is absolutely fantastic. I have driven Audis but, can not afford them. Plus the maintenance is quite a bit higher. If I were you I would get a 3.6, try a test drive! You will love it. I recommend the Sport Package II, a big difference in the seats.   Jick
#16 of 38 Re: very true [jpvwaudi] by merc1 Nov 17, 2005 (10:38 pm)
Replying to: jpvwaudi (Nov 14, 2005 7:44 pm) I am a salesman myself, but enjoy taking the time to learn my craft and product; I tend to take a more consultive position with my clients.   Assuming you sell VWs, what do most buyers of the Passat say they're cross-shopping it with? This new Passat nearly prices itself out of Accord/Camry territory if you aren't careful with the options. It seems to be more of a competitor pricewise to the Avalon,300,Maxima etc. What do you think?   M
#17 of 38 My New A4 by spidermac2005 Jan 14, 2006 (4:53 pm)
I just purchased (Monday) my new A4, only option was leather seating surfaces, which consequently gives you a sunroof. Sticker was 31.6K, I paid 30K. I would have gone with the quattro, but I had to absorb 5K in negative equity in my trade.   I drove the Passat 3.6 with the SP and I liked the ride and Handling of the Audi better. The VW package options drove the sticker up to around 36K. Both vehicles are a blast to drive, but I tip my hat to the A4. Actually, on the fun meter, the A3 has them both beat (unless you throw quattro into the mix, then the A4 wins).   With the included scheduled maintenance, I think the A4 is a much better value for the money than the Passat.
#18 of 38 Re: Buy the VW !!! [roberte1] by jimd4 Jan 15, 2006 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: roberte1 (Nov 11, 2005 7:09 am) Well I have a 2003 Audi A6 2.7T which comes off lease at the end of 2006. It is my second one. They are wonderful cars and service is great. All around handling and comfort are superb. They fix any little thing you find. I have been looking at the 2.0T Passat, the A4 Avant 2.0T and the 2006 RAV4 since the sticker of the new A6 Avant is up around $51K and I would like a litte more hauliing space The Passat wagon is not out yet it seems. The Audi includes all service ,oil, brakes etc for 4 yrs and 50K miles. The only reason I am looking at the Passat is it is well equipped and about 5K less than the A4. I can certainly recommend the A4 if you can live with the size which is pretty good. One thing that make the Audi motors great is they have a very low and broad torgue band. Max torgue starts at 1800 rpm or so. The RAV4 V6 for example has to be at 4600 rpm or so for max torgue. So the Audi will accelerate nicely with out shifting down and reving up. This makes it a lot more quiet and enjoyable to drive. The 5 speed auto (6 speed ) now adds to that smoothness. And since it does not need to rev all the time, MPG is very good.

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