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#16 of 50 Re: Cheap Car with Poor warranty (Tiburon) [m1miata] by richs3 Sep 10, 2006 (1:57 pm)
Replying to: m1miata (Sep 10, 2006 12:41 pm) I suppose that by 'reliable' here, you meant 'unreliable'. Am I understanding right that the originator of complaint is saying that clutch (parts & service) from Hyundai would cost 'ederekb' around 2k? What I don't get though, is why in particular one would want to be focused on only going to Hyundai to get a part replacement, when it seems there are plenty of aftermarket shops and products for people, offering either better or 'as good as' parts (for the most part, so to speak) for the money, in contrast to the car manufacturer. There are alternatives. With clutch not being covered, I would see it as an opportunity to purchase better, higher performance clutch. However, obviously, if/when a person is put at an unnecessary loss, due to no fault of their own, not good. That should not be the result of investing into a company by buying their product. That would make it a lose/win situation, instead of a win/win situation. It is a known fact, by car insurance companies that Hyundai parts, in general, are a bit pricey. Replies to this message: m1miata (Sep 13, 2006 5:32 pm) sunnyrodeo (Apr 03, 2007 2:36 pm) richs3 (Apr 03, 2007 3:43 pm) richs3 (Apr 03, 2007 4:58 pm)
#17 of 50 Re: Cheap Car with Poor warranty (Tiburon) [richs3] by m1miata Sep 13, 2006 (5:32 pm)
Replying to: richs3 (Sep 10, 2006 1:57 pm) Oops, it should have read liable. Held liable for repair, if they did in fact produce a faulty part. I have no way of knowing, and it will be settled in a court of law.   Anyway, I accidently type reliable. Replies to this message: sunnyrodeo (Apr 03, 2007 2:36 pm) richs3 (Apr 03, 2007 3:43 pm) richs3 (Apr 03, 2007 4:58 pm)
#18 of 50 Re: by sunnyrodeo Apr 03, 2007 (2:36 pm)
Replying to: m1miata (Sep 13, 2006 5:32 pm) i have tc and have drove tiburon V6 couple of times. TC's suspension is soft compared to tiburons. tiburon is little more powerful but tc is smoother. Tiburon has good manual transmission, they felt smooth and easy to engage(dunno about relaiblity, someone metioned cltuch problem above). also tiburon has 6 speed. I wish tc had another gear(it would be better for gas milage)tc is at 3000 rpm at 60-65mph. tiburon has stiffer clutch than tc yet Tiburon in manual form is much easier to drive smooth in traffic. I find tc hard to drive smooth in traffic. there is too much lag in throttle and i find engagement point too high on the clutch pedal travel.   As far as interior goes, they both have nice interior. tiburon was little better casue once i drove was loaded with leather seats and everything. But at 6'2" tiburon has no headroom. no way i can drive tiburon daily. TC is way roomier than tiburon. there is so much leg room front and back. Not much headroom in the rear tho. and glass roof make it feel even roomier. tc is a hatchback but has very little cargo room wiht seats up but with the seats down you can fit alot of stuff. TC has worst rear visibilty in rain at nite. NO REAR WIPER. its dangerous to merge onto highway on a rainy nite.   if you like to drive fast and take corners fast tiburon is a better car. stiffer chassis. TC would be a better car for you if you are looking for a affordable daily driver that you can have some fun with. Oh and tc is a way better looking car in my opinion, but its for more show than go.. Often people think its a more expensive car.   alot more after market stuff for tc if you are considering modding your car. TCs have as much after market as honda civic if not more.   dunno about huyndai service but toyota service department was very nice.. coming from vw.. and tcs power train is used in almost all toyotas (rav4, camry, next gen matrix, next gen XB, tacoma 4 cyl.) so you know it will be cheap to get them fixed. Also when you buy scion you wont have to haggle. Just pick watever you want, pay and drive away. Replies to this message: richs3 (Apr 03, 2007 3:43 pm) richs3 (Apr 03, 2007 4:58 pm)
#19 of 50 Re: [sunnyrodeo] by richs3 Apr 03, 2007 (3:43 pm)
Replying to: sunnyrodeo (Apr 03, 2007 2:36 pm) Good coverage. I think those are fair balanced and unbiased comments for the most part. I am contemporary to you, except I once owned a Tiburon, a black Tiburon. Somehow when I walked away from the car, I found that I kept looking back . . . like in the parking lot, like, okay horsey, stay there I'll be back in just a little, in admiration, or at least I should say, a sense of satisfaction. Okay, granted, it's not Rolls Royce, I'm easily enough satisfied with just a tidbit or tib-bit of acceleration and style. Yup, the Tiburon came packed up enough, with leather seats, and the (I know this is not a big thing to some people, but to me it made notable difference moon roof that tilt-lifted more like 5 or 6 inches, instead of just two, before it totally opened up. Plus, there were no recalls on that feature for the Tib. The seat was more comfortable, and more ergonomic to my back, which I have pulled more than once. Now, I see it's not that hard to get a whole 'nother seat, I see a lot of "after-market" items, but then . . why not get it right the first time? As for head-room, is it my imagination, or did I have more in Tib, sure seems like it, though maybe for leg room in back seat, but I don't usually sit there when I'm driving. And certainly less head space in back for any passengers I might have that aren't children, or short gals. The TC looks better? Yeah, I think it looks pretty neat definitely a plus, and it is a consistent ride, and plenty of things to fix it up. My Tib was automatic trans, but I agree about the 5-speed. However, third gear can work pretty nice to wind up to 65-ish (don't sue me if you go to far and redline though) Fourth gear will pretty much cover most freeway driving with punch, if you want to waste the gas, and at first, 5th gear seems to progress into high rpms sooner than wanted, but it really travels rather slowly towards the red line. It's all you need on freeways (though more could be desirable). I won't risk talking in great detail about high speeds. The tires that came with my car, okay, but too touchy with grooves and paving on some freeways and on-ramps, be careful of any gutter balls, I'd recommend other tires. As far as the Tiburon being "smoother", really don't know what that means, unless it pertains only to comparing with manual trans in Tiburon. Certainly it was not smoother that auto. As for Tiburon having stiffer suspension, yes, even the professional reviewers echo that for Tiburon. I like my TC, and find myself liking it more and more as time goes on, but end of this long entry for me would be: I look better in my TC, but I felt better in my Tiburon, much better. On the other I don't know if Tiburon ages as nicely. Excuse me for the lengthy comment, but maybe will be of interest to someone. r.s.
#20 of 50 Re: [sunnyrodeo] by richs3 Apr 03, 2007 (4:58 pm)
Replying to: sunnyrodeo (Apr 03, 2007 2:36 pm) Oh, although I rambled a lot in my previous response (not as well structured as yours), still one more thing I would like to respond to was your comments: > Actually, you get used to that somewhat. I can drive it fairly smooth, though I don't drive other manuals, so, I lack that perspective. BUT, for 1st gear at least, DEFINITELY could be a smoother engage process. What!? Do they want to embarass me with my date who's used to BMW's? (Oops, too late.) And second gear is a bit whiney, sort of like me, I guess. I did adapt somewhat though, I have 2005 version, if that makes a diff. In no wise does the clutch feel 'cheap', by any means, but I think they (the Ty-people) should have worked more with the ratios, and experimented more. Heck, if they could do it right, I would just as soon have a four speed, and not have to shift into second so quickly. If it's fair to compare automatic to manual, the first gear in TC seems to pick faster than the Tib did, though for just a few split seconds, and it offers a little bit of sound sensation with scratch. It still doesn't compare much though, even to the Tib-automatic. Nevertheless, if you wind out the gears a bit, good passing action. Hey, anyone want to loan me about .75K $ + tax + installation costs, so I can add high performance muffler, and cool air induction to increase anywhere between 7 and 12 horsepower? (kidding, but yes I'm open to, maybe the Toyota people will read this and feel sorry for me.) In all fairness, TC, as 4-cylinder, vs Tib 6-cylinder, competes very well for its size. But does it compete very well for its cost? It does get better gas mileage than Tib, and has good upgrade potential if you don't mind extra investments, above and beyond normal maintenance, to achieve a bit more 'entry level' edge.
#21 of 50 Love my '07 Tiberon SE by heavyrightfoot Apr 06, 2007 (11:57 am)
I have to weigh in with my two cents on this issue. First of all, you can compare the Tc with the Tib on this site and see the difference in horsepower, headroom, legroom, etc between the two vehicles. The tib wins most of those, t least in the front seat. I admit, I'm short (5'8") but I'm fat (290 lbs.) and that front seat is more comfortable than my expensive executive desk chair.   In my opinion,how the engine sounds in the first two or three gears doesn't matter one bit. I'm not in any of them long enought to hear it. OK... I stay in third gear in most local driving, but once I'm on the highway, I'm in 5th or 6th (did I just admit to 6th?).   The clutch is stiff enough to keep me from riding it, but responsive enough to let me shift the early gears as quickly as I like.   I also agree with Richs3's comments about how it looks. Especially the new Carbon Grey color for '07.   My only complaint is that the window design doesn't allow for a ventvisor, and the windshield design brings rainwater right into the driver's window. Like I said in my review, it's almost enough to get me to quit smoking. Replies to this message: paisan (Apr 11, 2007 3:33 am) heavyrightfoot (Apr 11, 2007 6:57 am) heavyrightfoot (May 08, 2007 3:41 pm)
#22 of 50 Mileage? by paisan Apr 11, 2007 (3:33 am)
Replying to: heavyrightfoot (Apr 06, 2007 11:57 am) What kind of milage are you guys seeing on the Tib v. Tc? Right now I'm looking for a sub $20k commuter car for here in the NY/NJ area and looking at all kinds of options: Tiberon Tc Impreza   Mostly looking for something with good milage and good traction in the wet/snow/dry   -mike Replies to this message: heavyrightfoot (Apr 11, 2007 6:57 am)
#23 of 50 Re: Mileage? [paisan] by heavyrightfoot Apr 11, 2007 (6:57 am)
Replying to: paisan (Apr 11, 2007 3:33 am) The 2.7 V6 is getting me about 20 Mpg in the city. If you're looking for under 20K then you won't be getting the Tib V6 (I paid 22K for mine) , but the 4 Cyl Tib will get you from point A to B with good gas mileage and FWD traction in snow and bad weather.   Of course it won't perform like the V6, but.... I guess we all sacrifice Mpg for Hp and Ft lbs of Torque.
#24 of 50 Hyundai Tiburon reliable? by stepdad May 08, 2007 (2:43 pm)
I hope someone reads this, because I am soon going to plunk down $17-20K for a 2007 Tiburon GT (5 speed) for my wife's 17 year-old son, as a gift from both of us. But, I worry about the problems that may be encountered with a Hyundai. The boy really likes the car's styling, but I am not so sure about the reliability, given the 2003 Tib's history. And the not-so-great rep of Hyundai in general. I have owned nothing but Toyotas for the past 20 years (four different Toyotas), and only had one warranty issue in all thoese 20 years, which the dealer took care of quickly and with no headaches. So, I lean towards the Scion tc.   Are the 2007 or even the 2006 Tiburons holding up after 25k or more miles? or, are we considering a lemon for my stepson?   Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Replies to this message: heavyrightfoot (May 08, 2007 3:26 pm) richs3 (May 08, 2007 9:11 pm) stepdad (May 10, 2007 9:27 am) richs3 (May 16, 2007 10:25 pm) mxjake41 (May 16, 2007 9:41 am) lingpanda01 (Jun 02, 2008 10:03 pm)
#25 of 50 Re: Hyundai Tiburon reliable? [stepdad] by heavyrightfoot May 08, 2007 (3:26 pm)
Replying to: stepdad (May 08, 2007 2:43 pm) I would be much more concerned about your teen-aged stepson wrapping the Tiburon around a tree than about its reliability.   I've had my 6 speed 07 SE for about 3500 miles now and I love it more than ever... I'm 40 years older than your boy, and even I sometimes have trouble restraining myself on a long windy road.   The warranty pretty much speaks for itself, but the Tib's performance makes it more dangerous for a relatively new driver. The scion looks cool but doesn't have quite the muscle of the Tib.   The good news is that the back seat is too small to fit many friends so he's not very likely to be distracted.   I have to believe that the insurance is going to be pretty hefty for the lad too... perhaps if he pays the premium he'll have some incentive to keep it on the road....   ... so think about all the angles, and make the choice you think is best for him.

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