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Re: 2 mode hybrid? [62vetteefp] by allmet33
Jun 13, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jun 12, 2008 9:43 am)

Hybrids aren't selling as well as expected because folks are realizing the truth about them. They only offer a true benefit if they are driven daily stop & go traffic. Take the Mercury Mariner and the Hybrid version...the regular Mariner gets 21/27 mpg, the Hybrid version gets 33/29. So if you don't drive in the city regularly...there's no clear cut benefit to buying one.
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Re: 2 mode hybrid? [allmet33] by dmathews3
Jun 13, 2008 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jun 13, 2008 6:00 am)

Right, and most people want a big car/SUV/Truck for the long trips etc. on the highway.
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Re: 2 mode hybrid? [dmathews3] by husky92
Jun 13, 2008 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jun 13, 2008 10:42 am)

Right, and most people want a big car/SUV/Truck for the long trips etc. on the highway.
 
Well, I'm not going to start an argument here other than to say that I'm not "most people". I just think that $4/gallon gas is going to get people thinking about ways to save gas. Maybe the technology still needs to mature but personally, I don't see the value of a Prius or Hybrid Civic. The Civic already gets great mileage. I'd love to get 22-24 MPG in my Sequoia.
 
As for this notion that hybrids don't sell well, I don't know where that is coming from:
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080611/BUSINESS01/806110403
 
Sales are down only because they can't make enough of them and yes, because of the battery recall. Demand is way up. I think $4/gallon is significant. Talk to anybody who regularly takes the bus about the number of people taking the bus since gas hit $4. I'd anticipate a gigantic drop in large SUV sales for June.
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Re: Window down- loud wind thumping [newz54] by tom178
Jun 15, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: newz54 (Apr 06, 2007 1:35 pm)

Have you found a solution to your problem? I have an 08 Outlook and when I have the rear two windows there seems to be quite abit of turbulence within the cabin. Lowering the front windows or opening the sunroof remedies the issue but it seems I am troubled by the cars response at highway speeds. The sunroof actually shakes violently and rear view mirror will do the same at times.
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shaking! by tom178
Jun 15, 2008 (4:45 pm)
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My new 08 saturn outlook is a beautiful family car. My only question is this. Ha s anyone with an outlook, acadia or enclave experienced cabin turbulence at highway speeds. I am not talking about the flub flub and pressure waves. I am talking about pretty violent shaking from the sunroof and rearview mirror. I am very concerned that I have a serious problem.
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Re: shaking! [tom178] by steve_ HOST
Jun 15, 2008 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: tom178 (Jun 15, 2008 4:45 pm)

So, you're saying this is way beyond the usual helicopter noise that's pretty common with most cars these days?
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Re: shaking! [steve_] by tom178
Jun 16, 2008 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 15, 2008 7:53 pm)

yes, absolutely which is why I am concerned. We brought it to the dealership and the technician called GM. They said this is usual with all the models. I do not think they understand the extent of the vibrations. I have never seen this before in a car and I am used to the usual "flub flub" sounds as they are normal in many new cars.
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Re: shaking! [tom178] by steve_ HOST
Jun 16, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: tom178 (Jun 16, 2008 5:09 am)

If it's "is usual with all the models" then you should be able to reproduce the noise by test driving another '08 on the lot. If you can't then you should request more investigate work be done by the tech. Bent wheels, bad tires, unbalanced driveshafts come to mind off the top of my head for things to check.
 
Recording the noise level in your rig and another one or two off the lot may help convince GM that you do have a problem beyond the norm.
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Re: shaking! [tom178] by allmet33
Jun 16, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: tom178 (Jun 15, 2008 4:45 pm)

I've got an '07 Outlook and the same thing happened. I noticed it during the test drive when I put the two rear windows down. I don't know about a violent shaking, but then again...I was only doing like 40-45 mph. Considering I never drive with just the rear windows down...for me it was no issue. Personally, I think it's just a quirk in the overall design and I'm pretty sure Saturn knows of it, but didn't think it would be an issue since most folks don't drive with just the rear windows down.

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