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Re: DI [drwilsc] by kcorey
May 18, 2008 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: drwilsc (May 18, 2008 8:40 am)

At this stage of the game you're right. The '09 Enclaves have several great new features over the '08's. BUT...what is the price difference?!So far, I haven't seen any prices. And, you might be able to get a DEAL on an '08.
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Re: DI [kcorey] by tourguide
May 18, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: kcorey (May 18, 2008 2:14 pm)

There isn't anything earth shattering coming out in the 09s to justify a dramatic price increase. Lots of things were rumored, but in the end a few nice options are coming, but no real justification I can see for major price bumps.
 
The 09s will likely be more expensive at the outset simply because they are newer. I would expect this to mediate itself in time and for the price to settle back.
 
I am anxious for the EPA numbers to come out on the new engine. I would expect a small increase in highway mpg, probably not much for city though any increase would be welcome.
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Re: DI [kcorey] by 62vetteefp
May 19, 2008 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: kcorey (May 18, 2008 2:14 pm)

There are no deals on Enclaves except $500 owner loyalty. Heck you might have to wait for an '09 since the 08's are probably already spoken for.
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roof leaks by tom174
May 21, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Good day , i just received my 2007 outlook after 7 days , fixing a " t bar " roof leak and looking for more infor on this situation , dealer had to change all of the interior roof , and i am thinking that this cause my windshield to crack over the last winter , any infor on this situation ,
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Re: roof leaks [tom174] by 62vetteefp
May 21, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: tom174 (May 21, 2008 9:20 am)

Not exactly sure what a "T bar" is but the only stuff on the roof that could leak is the ONStar antenna or the roof rack. Either of these could easily leak if sealer not applyed or gasket misaligned. Nothing to do with windshield.
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AWD Outlook to the Beach? by twodahls
Jun 08, 2008 (5:28 am)
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I currently have a true 4 wheel drive truck. I take my truck on the beach in 4 wheel drive. I'm unfamiliar with AWD systems. Would the Saturn's AWD system be able to handle beach sand, or is this just for better transaction in snow, rain etc?
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2 mode hybrid? by husky92
Jun 11, 2008 (11:53 am)
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I've seen articles that indicate that the Lambda cars are unlikely to get the new 2-mode hybrid system any time soon and yet, the Saturn Vue with the 3.6 liter V6 is getting it:
 
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/01/06/detroit-2008-saturn-vue-2-mode-hybrid/
 
If they can put it in this SUV, why not the Lambdas? They're talking about a 50% increase in fuel economy. That would be awesome.
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Re: 2 mode hybrid? [husky92] by kcorey
Jun 11, 2008 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: husky92 (Jun 11, 2008 11:53 am)

Read it all the way through...UP TO 50% increase. At a cost of about $3.000 to $4,000 more per car, and a big decrease in performance, it really isn't worth it...especially when you have to replace the batteries in about 5 to 6 years. Sorry, but hybrids and diesels are not thae way to go, especially in an SUV or Lambda.
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Re: 2 mode hybrid? [husky92] by 62vetteefp
Jun 11, 2008 (9:45 pm)
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Replying to: husky92 (Jun 11, 2008 11:53 am)

The 50% is epa so it is as accurate as the ratings are which is about right as of 2008.
 
Who says Lamdas will not get it? Seems like the Vue version would drop right in with some mods.
 
Prices will come down but it is hard to sell a hybrid unless you are a prius that is bought for the buyer to feel good about himself. The other hybrids do not sell.
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Re: 2 mode hybrid? [62vetteefp] by husky92
Jun 12, 2008 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jun 11, 2008 9:45 pm)

Who says Lamdas will not get it? Seems like the Vue version would drop right in with some mods.
 
Lots of postings indicating that the 2 mode hybrid won't work in the Lambdas. Of couse the Vue getting it directly contradicts this.
 
Here's one of the postings I was referring to:
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/28/gm-lambda-cuvs-not-going-hybrid-anytime-soon-- - sierra-will/
 
Prices will come down but it is hard to sell a hybrid unless you are a prius that is bought for the buyer to feel good about himself. The other hybrids do not sell.
 
Gas only hit $4/gallon in the last couple weeks. I would definitely be interested. I know many say it's not worth the extra cost but there are many other reasons. Given the choice of giving more money to Buick and less money to the oil companies and Saudi Arabia, I'm going to choose Buick.

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