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#2940 of 2998 Re: confused on what car to get [allmet33] by mseningen Mar 06, 2008 (2:06 pm)
Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 03, 2008 8:10 am) Well we've got a Ford Explorer now -- and have have a hard shell roof carrier I take on extended trips. Costs maybe 1MPG.   We're leaning heavily towards the Acadia. Wonder if the hard shell will fit?   m Replies to this message: allmet33 (Mar 06, 2008 2:11 pm)
#2941 of 2998 Re: confused on what car to get [mseningen] by allmet33 Mar 06, 2008 (2:11 pm)
Replying to: mseningen (Mar 06, 2008 2:06 pm) The space on top of the roof looks like it'll handle most cargo carriers. However...you may want to opt for the cross bars (dealer add-on option) so that the carrier will rest on those instead of on the actual roof itself.   I know the roof is sturdy though, I carried a 16 ft. fiberglass A-frame ladder (very heavy) and had no problem with the roof caving in or anything.
#2942 of 2998 Re: Direct Injection [62vetteefp] by tencjedd Apr 10, 2008 (1:28 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Mar 02, 2008 6:16 pm) Our other family car is a VW Touareg (05 w/ V8). They went direct injection in 07 model year and there was a BIG BOOST in HP. Nearly 30HP jump in the V6, whereby the 07 V6's were putting out 295 compared to the 06 V8's getting 310. The V8's saw a 40HP jump. Would prefer to see this type of gain versus adding more displacement.   As for the powered/unpowered issue. My wife and I really felt the car was underpowered, and the vehicle was always searching for the right gear on hills...downshifting, upshifting back right away, then downshifting again. Took the car in for its first service and had a software flash for the transmission and transfer case. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! The throttle response and apparent torque on acceleration feels SO MUCH crisper. Maybe its psychosomatic, but its like its a whole different drivetrain. Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Apr 10, 2008 1:54 pm)
#2943 of 2998 Re: Direct Injection [tencjedd] by 62vetteefp Apr 10, 2008 (1:54 pm)
Replying to: tencjedd (Apr 10, 2008 1:28 pm) Maybe its psychosomatic, but its like its a whole different drivetrain.   No you are feeling something completely different with the new cals. The vehicle has lots of power now. Hopefully the 3.6 will get the DI treatment and make 300 hp with little decrease in MPG.
#2944 of 2998 DI by drwilsc May 18, 2008 (8:40 am)
Saturnfans website says the 3.6 DI in the 2009 Otulook XR (and presumably the other lambdas) should make 290 hp (rather than 275) AND get better fuel economy than the current 3.6. They are saying they will start making the 09's in June. Bottom line - if you are interested in these cars, it might be best to hold out for an 09. Replies to this message: kcorey (May 18, 2008 2:14 pm) tourguide (May 18, 2008 3:29 pm) 62vetteefp (May 19, 2008 3:16 am)
#2945 of 2998 Re: DI [drwilsc] by kcorey May 18, 2008 (2:14 pm)
Replying to: drwilsc (May 18, 2008 8:40 am) At this stage of the game you're right. The '09 Enclaves have several great new features over the '08's. BUT...what is the price difference?!So far, I haven't seen any prices. And, you might be able to get a DEAL on an '08. Replies to this message: tourguide (May 18, 2008 3:29 pm) 62vetteefp (May 19, 2008 3:16 am)
#2946 of 2998 Re: DI [kcorey] by tourguide May 18, 2008 (3:29 pm)
Replying to: kcorey (May 18, 2008 2:14 pm) There isn't anything earth shattering coming out in the 09s to justify a dramatic price increase. Lots of things were rumored, but in the end a few nice options are coming, but no real justification I can see for major price bumps.   The 09s will likely be more expensive at the outset simply because they are newer. I would expect this to mediate itself in time and for the price to settle back.   I am anxious for the EPA numbers to come out on the new engine. I would expect a small increase in highway mpg, probably not much for city though any increase would be welcome.
#2947 of 2998 Re: DI [kcorey] by 62vetteefp May 19, 2008 (3:16 am)
Replying to: kcorey (May 18, 2008 2:14 pm) There are no deals on Enclaves except $500 owner loyalty. Heck you might have to wait for an '09 since the 08's are probably already spoken for.
#2948 of 2998 roof leaks by tom174 May 21, 2008 (9:20 am)
Good day , i just received my 2007 outlook after 7 days , fixing a " t bar " roof leak and looking for more infor on this situation , dealer had to change all of the interior roof , and i am thinking that this cause my windshield to crack over the last winter , any infor on this situation , Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (May 21, 2008 10:18 am)
#2949 of 2998 Re: roof leaks [tom174] by 62vetteefp May 21, 2008 (10:18 am)
Replying to: tom174 (May 21, 2008 9:20 am) Not exactly sure what a "T bar" is but the only stuff on the roof that could leak is the ONStar antenna or the roof rack. Either of these could easily leak if sealer not applyed or gasket misaligned. Nothing to do with windshield.

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