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Re: The Triplets aren't very advanced...... [62vetteefp] by nvbanker
Jan 27, 2008 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 27, 2008 8:29 am)

But certainly not a reason for not buying one and the public seems to agree.
 
Well, I guess the public that doesn't own a phone with bluetooth sees no reason, but it IS EXACTLY why I have a Lexus rather than a Cadillac at this time. I'm glad the transmission is a 6 speed and coil on plug has finally found its way into the GM engineering world. I do like them, I repeat.
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Connecting Bike Rack to Outlook by smelltest
Jan 28, 2008 (3:59 am)
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Hi,
 
Does anyone have any pictures of the OEM trailer hitch package for the outlook they can share?
 
I want to be able to connect one of those bike racks that inserts into the hitch assembly.
 
Anyone know if the assembly included with the outlook or is that part of the trailering package? For my part, really don't plan using the hitch for anything else.
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Re: Connecting Bike Rack to Outlook [smelltest] by 62vetteefp
Jan 28, 2008 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: smelltest (Jan 28, 2008 3:59 am)

The trailer receiver only comes with the trailer package. Nice feature is that there is a built in removable cover if you are not using the hitch taht is part of the fascia and there is no view of the hitch.
 
bike rack works great but you need to take it off to open the hatch unless you use an extension on the rack. but then it sticks out quite aways.
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Re: The Triplets aren't very advanced...... [nvbanker] by albook
Feb 03, 2008 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jan 27, 2008 12:42 pm)

If you're saying the Buick can't compete with higher class, that's totally off. There is a forum full of people who traded in X5s and RX's for one, or picked one over Range Rovers and LX570s. Many who had never driven a GM vehicle before yet were used to drving Europe's best. These triplets are worthy of praise- GM did do a good job.
 
I think the only aspect of technology GM's behind in is bluetooth. And GM will crack and offer that soon.If that was the only reaon you bought your Lexus over a Cadillac, you must have had a strict criteria. What Lexus and which Caddy, by the way?
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Re: The Triplets aren't very advanced......AND 2009 changes by beach15
Feb 04, 2008 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 03, 2008 6:26 am)

They're NOT underpowered and not lacking in technology...basically just Bluetooth.
 
For 2009, Bluetooth will be there (optional/standard depending on Lambda model trim lelvel), as well as XM live traffic, cooled seats in addition to heat (again, optional), and also an interior design change to incorporate the new "integrated" center stacks. Basically, compared to now with one pod and separate radio & HVAC units, the center stack will be all one flowing piece that's not broken up. This is a design change going across GM, and will be changed in several vehicles for '09.
 
The other very notable change is ALL 2009 Lambda vehicles will have the Direct Injection 3.6L that started life this year as the upgrade CTS and STS engine. It makes more power but also puts out less emissions and can be more efficient, so in it comes. Should be an interesting change, and we'll know facts & figures on it in the Lambdas when the new Chevrolet Traverse (the vehicle were all the 2009 details known have come from...because GM already put it on the DealerWorld system), is shown shortly.
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Re: The Triplets aren't very advanced......AND 2009 changes [beach15] by 62vetteefp
Feb 04, 2008 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: beach15 (Feb 04, 2008 7:21 pm)

Basically, compared to now with one pod and separate radio & HVAC units, the center stack will be all one flowing piece that's not broken up. This is a design change going across GM, and will be changed in several vehicles for '09.
 
How is this in relation to the black tie?
 
No '09's in dealerworld. Must have taken it out?
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The Truth & Nothing But the Truth by natalulu
Feb 05, 2008 (7:07 pm)
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    I'm eliminating Toyota Highlander purchase inquiry after driving the Enclave but remain concerned about the mileage. My '05 Honda Pilot gussles gas to the tune of 14mpg in town. Pilot is only rated for 15 (and truthfully it is consistent 14.5 for 3 years running) so if 18 is reasonable, I could live with that. I'm reading reviews on the Enclave of 16-18mpg around city driving (90% of my driving) to a guy in Pittsburgh saying around 10 (hilly) which is quite a big difference.
     I do have a steep grade for about 1/2 mile 2-3times a day to get out of the valley I'm in - and am concerned that combined with traffic/lights I'm going to be buying another gas hog. Don't know that the downhill drive back compensates for the effort of the uphill on the mpg Feedback from owners (in hilly areas) ?
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Re: The Truth & Nothing But the Truth [natalulu] by zman3
Feb 05, 2008 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: natalulu (Feb 05, 2008 7:07 pm)

I live in relatively flat Minneapolis, but it is cold, and I think that affects mileage. We only average 13-14 MPG in the winter in typical suburban driving with an AWD Enclave. I think 16-18 would be fortunate for an AWD Enclave, based on my experience. FWD I have no idea.
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Re: The Truth & Nothing But the Truth [natalulu] by 62vetteefp
Feb 06, 2008 (3:47 am)
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Replying to: natalulu (Feb 05, 2008 7:07 pm)

If the Pilot is rated for 15 (where did you get this?) and you get 14.5 that to me means that you will most likely get at least what the '08 Enclave is rated for. And that is 16.
 
I seenow that the '05 was rated for 17, you get 14.5. Therefore that hill is killing your mileage but that kinda split is not unusual for the old epa ratings.
 
Current Pilot gets 16 epa city so you are still behind on that one. So my guess would be you get 15 or so city with the Enclave. I know we are doing about 16 city or so but that is flat land. This is a FWD.
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Re: The Truth & Nothing But the Truth [62vetteefp] by chuckhoy
Feb 06, 2008 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Feb 06, 2008 3:47 am)

I think the effect of the hill will be pretty negligible over the long haul. I have a rather large and steep hill on my way to work too. But, because here are no stoplights or stop signs anywhere near it the mileage evens out. My Outlook has a nifty transmission feature that saves gas. When I am in a prolonged down slope of a hill and I am gaining speed the transmission shifts into a semi-neutral setting. The RPMs go down to slightly below 1000 and stay there until I either hit the gas or the brakes. It also seems to pick up a lot of speed this way too. It allows me to coast a lot.

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