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Saturn Outlook, GMC Acadia and Buick Enclave

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Fuel mileage after transmission flash by donl1
Jan 08, 2008 (9:34 am)
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My Acadia is an 07' AWD SLT. 16K and mileage is 19 in the winter with mostly highway driving and 20 to 21 in the summer. The transmission is a lot easier to live with since the flash. Only a 1000 miles since the flash so maybe the warm weather this summer will see and increase in MPG...one can always hope.
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Re: Fuel mileage after transmission flash [donl1] by dattales
Jan 09, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: donl1 (Jan 08, 2008 9:34 am)

I have an 07 Sat. Outlook which I purchased in May. My only disappointment is the fuel mileage. Salesperson did tell us we would get 28 mpg easily, which was a major consideration at time of purchase. Of course, it gets nowhere close to that. Then they told me it would improve after 10,000 miles. I have 16,000 and still not any better. If I could find anything else about this vehicle that I didn't like, I would trade it tomorrow, but it has great features that I love. Just wish gas wasn't $3.00 or so a gallon!!!!!! I have not done the update on the transmission. I am getting 20mpg, occasionally 21. Did it help your mpg?
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Re: Fuel mileage after transmission flash [dattales] by 62vetteefp
Jan 09, 2008 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: dattales (Jan 09, 2008 6:20 pm)

28 mpg easily??? Come on. This is a huge SUV not a mid sized sedan.
 
Update would not effect mpg except perhaps the wrong way. Makes the vehicle downshift more easily.
 
MPG should improve over time though as everything breaks in. Again I will be thrilled if I get close to 20 mpg on my Enclave. The 2008 epa list it at 16/24 so "easily 28" is an impossibility.
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Re: MPG[donl1] [62vetteefp] [allmet33] [62vetteefp] [allmet33] [62vetteefp] [allmet33] [62vetteefp] by nvbanker
Jan 09, 2008 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 08, 2008 8:39 am)

Not that they care what I think, but GM has too many divisions that dilute their strength across too many duplicated lines. For example, they only really need 2 Lambda cars, certainly not 4. The Acadia is clearly the one that should go away, GMC is Professional Grade TRUCKS, not crossovers. If Chevy is going to get one now, it's a duplicate of the Saturn market, whatever that is. Saturn has long since lost their mission and their way, and nobody knows what they are now. Wierd, I guess. SATURN "We're wierd!"
 
Several attempts have been made to define markets for the GM brands, but none of them work, or stick, or both because they have dealers whine that they are being cheated! If I were a Saturn dealer today, I'd be suing somebody for taking away my cars! Although, the Aura and roadster are nice, the Vue is better, and the Outlook is a great looking Chevy, Saturn has been in pergatory for years... It's hard to understand how such ugly cars can actually be made.
 
Anyway, YMMV, but IMO, the Enclave and the Outlook should be all they need. Give the Outlook to Chevy if necessary, it's not selling as a Saturn anyway.
 
Somebody should blow all the planets up. Mercury, Saturn........
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Re: MPG[donl1] [62vetteefp] [allmet33] [62vetteefp] [allmet33] [62vetteefp] [allmet33] [62vetteefp] [nvbanker] by chuckhoy
Jan 10, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jan 09, 2008 9:10 pm)

There are, simply, not enough Saturn dealers to justify getting rid of the Acadia. If anything Saturn should dump all SUVs and crossovers or anything that is not a car. The original Saturn mission was to sell small to mid-sized cars that were unique to Saturn. I also miss the plastic exteriors. It was darn near impossible to dent them.
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Drop the Outlook, and get a Caddy version!! by founder
Jan 11, 2008 (1:39 am)
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The one thing that always bothered me about GM is that all the same cars but with a different name was at each of their divisions. Today it doesn't make since considering the very crowded market. I feel that GM just should've done 3 versions from the start. Chevy, GMC, and Caddy should've been the choices. GM got it right with the GMC, but Saturn and Buick?? Both of those divisions doesn't hold the public interest to justify giving them these great crossovers. Saturn was supposed to be an economy/small car division for GM, and Buick should've been phased out. I do not know what GM was thinking for not making a Caddy version. They could've redesigned the SRX or Just made the Enclave the Caddy version. The Enclave is nice no doubt that Buick badge I think will hinder sales, but that's my opinion. The Enclave would be seeling much more if it was a Caddy.
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Where in the Heck is the V8 for the Enclave? by founder
Jan 11, 2008 (1:49 am)
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The jury is still out on GM badging the Enclave as a Buick, think it should been a Caddy to get more interest. At any rate considering this is the heaviest of the 3 crossovers and to compete better and be a real class leader i think a V8 in the Buick at least should've been an option. I drove the Encalve and while I like(still having a hard time getting past the Buick name) it the V6 is just mediocre to me. The V6 gas miliage is below average to point where i would shell out the extra bucks for a V8 and get more power. I remember reading before the Enclave came out that a V8 was going to be an option. What happened? I would to buy this SUV, but the mediocre power and gas milage is my biggest stopping point. I can't wait 2 or 3 years down the line if the rumored V8 is supposed to come along. GM lost a sale, at least for 5 years from me. I'm looking to get a SUV now.
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Re: Where in the Heck is the V8 for the Enclave? [founder] by kcorey
Jan 11, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: founder (Jan 11, 2008 1:49 am)

I just don't understand all the hoopla about the Enclave being a V8 and you wanting more "power". I've had my Enclave with 7 adults and luggage in the rear, and have never felt that the car was under-powered. If I wanted a car for get-up-and-go, I would have bought a Corvette or maybe the big Caddy SUV. After all, the Navigator is a V8, and it's just a big tub...lousy from the word go! Just my opinion.
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Re: Where in the Heck is the V8 for the Enclave? [kcorey] by nvbanker
Jan 12, 2008 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: kcorey (Jan 11, 2008 9:30 am)

Yes - let's remember the age and experience of Buick drivers, does not lend to aggressive driving or sudden acceleration! Most Buick drivers would be more than satisfied with the 6. However, a nice little turbo or super on that 6 would give you plenty of performance for those who don't KNOW they're in a Buick, without the weight of the V-8. And the economy would be better. If the GW folks get their way, we'll be grateful to have anything as powerful as that Buick pretty quickly.
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Re: Where in the Heck is the V8 for the Enclave? [founder] by allmet33
Jan 14, 2008 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: founder (Jan 11, 2008 1:49 am)

Would have been hard to market two CUV's under the Caddy name. They already have the SRX.

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