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2998 messages, Last post on Aug 20, 2009 at 3:29 PM
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Replying to: allmet33 (Oct 15, 2007 6:32 am) |
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jan 06, 2008 9:12 pm) I will let you know. I am getting my Enclave tonight!!!! 
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I had my transmission in my 07' flashed about 3 months ago and it significantly improved the shifting. Wasn't expecting much but I'm pleasantly surprised. Unfortunately no change in the gas mileage.
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Replying to: donl1 (Jan 07, 2008 1:07 pm) Side note, our Enclave is noticably quieter than our Acadia.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2008 1:23 pm) I would think the Enclave would be the quietest of all the Lambdas since they put more sound deadening throughout the entire vehicle, after all...it is the "luxury" entry of the 3 (soon to be 4) Lambdas. Question is, how much of a difference is there between the Acadia and the Outlook and will there be any difference with the Chevy version?
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 07, 2008 2:12 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2008 2:52 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 08, 2008 5:58 am) Times have changed. Buick is folding into Buick/GMC/Pontiac dealers. Gas prices are reducing truck based SUV's sales and therefore GM killed the next mid sized SUV Trailblazer replacement. Crossovers are taking huge amounts of market share (16%) and going up. The minivan segment is plummeting (down 20% last year) and therefore GM killed their uncompetitive minivan rather than spend the invdestment $'s. All of a sudden Chevrolet, the volume marque, does not have a model in the new hot new large sized crossover. They do not have a minivan. They do not have a midsized SUV. GM needs to get something there if they want to sell more volume. So Chevy will be getting one. Now who should drop their crossover? Buick? Not with the hit the Enclave has been and not if they are really going to stay around. You have to be in the SUV/CUV market if you want to be a volume player and if they really want to have Buick compete against Lexus. GMC? Maybe but they are the ones selling all the volume now and GMC is traditionally the profit center for GM. Lots of people will not buy a Chevy but will buy the more premium GMC. Of course the dealers have two models in the same showroom (Enclave/Acadia) so it is very possible the Acadia will phase out as the Chevy Traverse builds up volume. Saturn? If Saturn wants to be a real marque they really also need the CUV. However their sales better pickup or they may lose the Outlook.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 08, 2008 7:35 am) When it comes to sales of the SUV's, the American public really looks at GMC and Chevy, so I can see the Acadia and Traverse being the other two Lambdas that stay on board. As much as I love my Outlook, I do see the problems Saturn can face. The only thing that can help them is dropping the Relay mini-van which would have folks looking at the Outlook, but I don't think sales would jump that much. So maybe the Outlook would end up being phased out and they'll just focus on the Vue.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 08, 2008 7:45 am) Guess GM could keep Saturn as a smaller vehicle division and if the Outlook does not pick up sales kill it when the Chevy comes in. Easy to say 4 is too many but then hard to pick which one dies. GM is still a company with divisions which can be both an advantage and a disadvantage. GM has the largest US sales by far so there having 4 significant divisions is not a bad thing. Chevy, Cadillac, Pontiac/Buick/GMC and Saturn. Hummer and Saab are boutique brands 
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