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Re: Market conditions pricing [62vetteefp] by nastacio
Sep 10, 2007 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 10, 2007 10:31 am)

Not easy at all to spot an Enclave over here. I have seen only one on the road so far.
 
Maybe it is a GM tactic to create a value-hype over the model, but more likely a gross scheduling fumble. I am sure the Buick dealers are fuming over the shortage and delays. Meanwhile, the Outlooks are starting to sit a little bit in our local dealer (some models with the state inspection sticker from 3-4 months ago on the windshield.)
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Re: Market conditions pricing [kcorey] by budi
Sep 10, 2007 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: kcorey (Sep 10, 2007 8:55 am)

I have not seen many Enclaves on the road in DC area. I have only seen like 5-7 with local plates. The dealer I bought from has 5 of them but they are equipped really weird I can see why they are sitting.
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Re: Market conditions pricing [budi] by chuckhoy
Sep 10, 2007 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: budi (Sep 10, 2007 6:07 pm)

I have not seen many Enclaves on the road in DC area. I have only seen like 5-7 with local plates. The dealer I bought from has 5 of them but they are equipped really weird I can see why they are sitting.
 
That is why I ordered my (my wife's ) Outlook. All the ones available were either no-options XEs or fully pimped out XRs. Little in between. I figure that if I am spending that much on a car, I can wait to get exactly what I (meaning she) wants.
 
I have seen about 6 or 7 Outlooks around my area. They outnumber Acadias (I have seen 1 or 2) and I have not seen an Enclave.
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Re: Market conditions pricing [nastacio] by 62vetteefp
Sep 11, 2007 (4:09 am)
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 10, 2007 11:22 am)

Maybe it is a GM tactic to create a value-hype over the model, but more likely a gross scheduling fumble. I am sure the Buick dealers are fuming over the shortage and delays.
 
Not sure it is a fumble or there are any delays. Enclave was always scheduled to come out 6 months after the others and the dealers know that there is always a slow startup for quality reasons for new vehicles. GM did underestimate the the Lamda sales and that is why a 3rd shift is going in and a 2nd plant being readied.
 
The note above about 5 Enclaves being at a lot is a bit suspicious.
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Re: Market conditions pricing [budi] by nxs138
Sep 11, 2007 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: budi (Sep 10, 2007 6:07 pm)

Local dealer here has a couple of Enclaves sitting on the lot. Not sure why they're not selling, maybe it's because the dealership itself looks like a crappy throwback from the seventies. These were also rather loaded, maybe it's sticker shock for the local folk (the Acadias next to the Enclaves were cheaper).
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Seat length by bobw3
Sep 11, 2007 (8:31 am)
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All the previous posts on seat lengths makes me wonder. Can someone measure the seat bottoms on the Outlook, Acadia, Enclave and some of the other minvans/CUVs and report back...in all three rows of seats. I'll do the same on my Freestyle. I'm just curious.
 
As far as lumbar support, don't they all pretty much have adjustable lumbar support where you can crank it from nothing to a lot? My current FS in the basic version and my last couple of cars all had it.
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Re: Market conditions pricing [nxs138] by nastacio
Sep 11, 2007 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Sep 11, 2007 7:42 am)

That is an interesting remark about the dealer facilities. With the exception of the Cadillac dealer, the GM dealers in our area are all like that, surrounded by the fancy facilities from Honda, Ford, Mazda, and even Hyundai.
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availability by belv
Sep 11, 2007 (1:38 pm)
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In eastern Iowa it's almost impossible to find and an enclave or an Acadia. In Decorah, which is in the NE corner of Iowa, Jim Daley, the owner of the local Pontiac, Buick, GMC dealer has had 25 orders for the enclave. He told me if I ordered now (Sep 8th) I would probably have to wait until sometime next year to get it. According to him GM has orders for the next six months of production. I've seen about a half dozen enclaves around here so far.
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Re: Market conditions pricing [nastacio] by nxs138
Sep 11, 2007 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 11, 2007 8:33 am)

It just gives you a bad impression right from the start: old, dirty building right next to the street, small lot, bad location, etc. Guess the owner hasn't forked money to update the place, in stark contrast with other dealerships next to it.
 
If the Enclave is competing against the high end European and Japanese SUVs, dealership like these can't possibly help the image.
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Re: Market conditions pricing [62vetteefp] by budi
Sep 11, 2007 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 11, 2007 4:09 am)

They now have 6 listed in inventory as of 10:33 EDT.
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