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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 06, 2007 12:02 pm) I had to lower the seat more than I would like to and tilt the wheel all the way up.
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 06, 2007 1:09 pm) I do know I can put it down so far that the gages are actually above the top of the rim!! Did that on a long trip to give me a slightly different hand to wheel orientation. Just playing around. |
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Last summer, I traded my trusty Saab station wagon for a Jeep Grand Cherokee (finally succumbing to the SUV craze) and developed such bad hip and back pain on my right side (the "driving leg" side) that after 2.5 months, I went back to another Saab wagon and lost a ton of $$$$ in the process. I'm short, the pedals sat off to the left and the seats sat high in the Jeep. Even with adjustable pedals, I couldn't make the car work for me. In shopping many vehicles before running back to Saab, one dealer said to me of my plight "sometimes, a car just doesn't fit you." And he was right. Sad part is, my hip never did fully recover from the contorting I had to do reaching the brake pedal in that stupid Jeep. If you're in pain in your vehicle, and you know it's the car, get out of it! Good luck!
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 06, 2007 1:09 pm) |
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Replying to: nelsoncm (Sep 06, 2007 5:15 pm) I really would like to drive the vehicle, but wouldn't hesitate to get rid of it if I wasn't going to take a bath in trade. So much for value!! Looks like your dealer's adage, "Sometimes, a car just doesn't fit you" just went up by one!!! |
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 07, 2007 6:07 am) - Safety problems with rear crash data - Poor rear visibility - Seat problems - Fixed Pricing!!! I think I will pass. |
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Replying to: seloo (Sep 07, 2007 7:53 am) As near as I could tell, it has not been tested yet in a crash-test setting. The only test that was done was an isolated test on the headrest. That is not very conclusive to me. - Poor rear visibility I think it is a symptom of the size and type of vehicle it is. You would have the same problems from a CX-9, big SUV, minivan or other large vehicles that sit high off the ground. - Seat problems One person. Pretty much everyone else has not had a problem. I think they are comfy. - Fixed Pricing!!! Yes, because it is a Saturn. If you like to haggle you can get an Acadia or Enclave. They are the same as the Outlook for the most part. I think I will pass. That is up to you, but you will not find a CUV with more cargo space. The only other alternative is a minivan or big SUV.
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Sep 07, 2007 8:29 am) Of course one can always go and buy something else, but in our area the situation is a bit curious. The Buick dealer is right across the street from the Saturn dealer, and very soon, the Enclaves will enter the rebate/haggling zone, offering a supposedly upscale version of the Outlook at a lower price. As for the rear crash data, I don't think manufacturers actually rear end their cars, but only measure the headrests and simulate the effects of a rear collision putting the front seats on a sled. Some claim that the lambdas fared so poorly on the measurement that no one bothered to put the seats on a sled, but I could not find any concrete information about it. As for facts regarding a supposed Outlook deficiency, the 2nd and 3rd row headrests are not adjustable. |
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Replying to: seloo (Sep 07, 2007 7:53 am) Do yourself a favor and go test drive one of the Lambda vehicles for yourself to see if you have any issues with it. I truly don't think the rear visibility is poor, it's just a vehicle that sits up higher off the ground. If you consider it to be bad in one of these, what do you think a full sized SUV would be like? Honestly, it's nothing a back up camera couldn't fix. Personally...I don't have an issue with the rear visibility. To be specific, there are no problems with the seats themselves. It's more an issue of anatomy for the drivers. Fixed pricing??? Where have you been, that's been Saturns niche since day 1. If you want to haggle the price, then go after the Acadia or Enclave, or any of the other CUV's on the market if you're looking for one.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 07, 2007 9:12 am) How did they ever move things like the Ion and the Relay? $5K factory rebates? |
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