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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 06, 2007 6:02 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 06, 2007 6:08 am) 
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 06, 2007 7:16 am) 
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 06, 2007 5:55 am) I don't have Shaq-size feet! The problem is that the console encroaches on the foot well. My foot, like probably most people, has a natural tendency to move outward. I can't do that because of the console which causes my foot to turn inward which is probably tweaking my hip joint and causing the pain. I'm using an orthopedic cushion and have another seat cover on top. Helping a bit, but it isn't large enough to cover the entire seat so my legs still droop and have no support under the front. Because I'm elevated due to the cushions the area is even more reduced. Another issue is the steering wheel/column. Calling it a tilt steering wheel is a misnomer. It doesn't tilt, it SLIDES up and down! To accommodate the down position the steering column extends several inches downward between your legs. My knees bump into it and it makes it a bit cumbersome to climb in and out. Regarding the Veracurz, seen a few but haven't been in one. For me, high seats would be better because I'd have more support under my legs as I do with our Odyssey. Because the Outlook sits high off the ground, the seat can only go so far up without your head going thru the roof. For me, without the height and support, I'm sitting ON the seat, not IN it!!
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 06, 2007 7:39 am) I have taken mine on a 6+ hour road-trip and it was as comfortable as a seat could be. My butt starts to hurt sitting in any chair for more than an hour. It had enough thigh support. I did adjust it a few times during the trip because as I sit for prolonged periods of time, different positions are more comfortable than others. Sorry about the problems. Nothing can make a car more misreble to own than one that makes you, physically, hurt. It's too bad.
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 06, 2007 7:39 am) You don't have the power seats, do you? I know in the XR, you can adjust the angle of the seat by raising the front end and lowering the rear end of it. If you have that ability...try doing that. Maybe the XE is different, but the steering wheel in our XR both tilts (up and down) and telescopes (back and forth). Maybe you have a defective column. I can't speak on the footwell area of the Veracruz as I wasn't paying attention to that, but I didn't have any issues with my feet down there at all. The seating seemed to be a bit more accomodating than the Outlook, but I find the Outlook's seats to be comfortable too. As I stated before, I don't think the seats in the Veracruz actually sit higher, the lowness of the side windows makes it seem as such. I will say, the view from the Veracruz is more open. Oh yeah...the side view mirrors are terrific compared to the Outlook's! LOL Maybe you should go test drive one and see what you think. You might be able to trade your Outlook in and end up getting a bit back (depending on your financing). 
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Sep 06, 2007 7:57 am) I do have power seats and have experimented with each position 100X over!! The steering column is not defective, that is how it is engineered. My definition of tilt is that you have a single fixed pivot point and the steering wheel should move in a semi-circular arc without moving the pivot point. In the Outlook, the pivot point isn't stationary inside the dash so to speak. The steering wheel moves up and down as does the pivot point. The arc or angle of the wheel never changes, it just slides up and down. If it actually tilted, the distance of the top, or bottom, of the wheel would change in relation to its distance from the dash. When you tilt up, the top of the wheel would be closer to the dash. Tilted down, the top of the wheel would be further from the dash. Working on the problem and trying to make it tolerable. As to comfortable, probably not in the cards! Getting too old and too many physical breakdowns I suppose. Little things are making a big difference!!
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 06, 2007 8:19 am) The steering colum does actually pivot, it's just the way the shroud is designed, you can't see it. I know when it's at it's lowest position, the top of the steering wheel is away from the face of the dash. When it's at it's highest point, the top of the steering wheel is closer. You can also see the angle of the wheel change as it goes up too. When it's down, it's almost verticle. Good luck. |
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 06, 2007 8:19 am) The new Outlook and various other GM vehicles are now using the cheaper system of tilt Why is the japanese way cheaper? Lot cheaper to manufacture and also much easier to design w/o worrying about column accordianing. (chest intrusion) |
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