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Re: Driver Comfort [gleppert] by allmet33
Sep 05, 2007 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 05, 2007 1:56 pm)

Wow...didn't any of this jump out at you when you took the test drive??? Please don't tell me your idea of a test drive is one time around the block and back into the lot! I have seen this a lot lately where folks take a short cruise around the block and then they are back in the sales office signing paperwork.
 
Are you talking XE or XR, I ask because it could be the difference between cloth or leather seats. I have an XR and the leather seats are very supportive and quite comfortable. To date, the longest I've spent behind the wheel at any one given time period is about 2 hours. I'm looking forward to the trek down to the in-laws (4 hour drive to NC).
 
People, do yourself a favor...if you're serious about buying a vehicle, ask them to allow you to take it home so you can haven an opportunity to drive it where you normally drive to see if it suits you. If not take it home, allow for an extended test drive period that will accomodate you spending some quality time with the vehicle.
 
Considering you've had the vehicle going on 7 months, you're way beyond a buy-back program (1st 30 days...maybe).
 
Maybe you should go test an Enclave or Acadia and see if you have the same issues in either of them. Good luck!!!
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Excellent experience with Saturn dealers on Outlook testdrive by nastacio
Sep 05, 2007 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 05, 2007 2:07 pm)

A short test-drive is somewhat unforgivable for a Saturn. The dealer let me keep the car from Saturday 1PM until Monday 1PM. I drove 100 miles on it, anywhere from a 30 minute drive to visit friends to a grocery store visit.
 
True to Saturn's premise, no questions asked or pressure when I returned the keys.
 
I am secretly hoping my wife will find fault on our pre-ordered CX-9 before it arrives, because I really wanted an Outlook or Enclave - and they are cheaper too
 
Or maybe I could just make up some story about reading stories of blown-up CX-9 engines in the Internet forums...
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Re: Driver Comfort [gleppert] by 62vetteefp
Sep 05, 2007 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 05, 2007 1:56 pm)

How different are the Outlook and Acadia? Been driving the Acadia for 3 months/6000 miles and love it including the seats.
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Re: GM Reliability for Acadia/Enclave???? [canuck17] by bhaynes
Sep 05, 2007 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: canuck17 (Aug 24, 2007 2:19 pm)

did you buy any of these
i am looking at getting an enclave but thinking of buying it from the states where i am told they are abot ten grand less for some reason
thanks
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Re: Driver Comfort [gleppert] by joeblack1
Sep 05, 2007 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 05, 2007 1:56 pm)

Interesting that you should mention that. It seems like a lot of the new cars have consoles that invade the area where I would want to naturally relax my right foot into. I have knee problems that get much worse when I drive cars like that. That is one reason why I am keeping my 98 Suburban for now. It is nice and open in the middle, and I can just let my right foot relax without holding it more straight up and down. I wasn't going to mention this because I thought I was the only one who had a problem with it. I did drive the Acadia and did not find it very good for me in this regard. I had similar problems with the CX-9. I wish I could find one that actually that had more foot space. If anyone else has noticed, please let me know.
 
One thought is that if you get under there, you may be able to remove pieces of the console and free up some space. I did this with another car.
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Re: Driver Comfort [allmet33] by gleppert
Sep 05, 2007 (7:43 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 05, 2007 2:07 pm)

Took a 30 minute test drive in traffic and then had the vehicle for 6 hours on a Saturday afternoon and took it for several drives, including a 30- and 40-minute jaunt. Had no issues regarding comfort. The longest trip, 3 days after purchase, was 1.5 hours. Developed the pain that I thought would be alleviated by changing the positions on the power seat. Nothing works!!
 
Never had such an issue in any vehicle in 30+ years of driving so I never thought after I bought, "Gee, I hope in 3 days my leg and back don't start hurting."
 
I have the XE. Sat in leather XR in showroom. Seats appeared to be identical to my XE but maybe I'll take an XR for a few days. I was told the 2008s would be in soon but I doubt that GM made any changes to the seats.
 
I'm fairly certain the problem is unique to me but thought perhaps that others may be experiencing some discomfort and may have found a reasonable solution.
 
Mea culpa! I'm SOL and next time I'll know better. Maybe I just wanted the vehicle to work out since it was ideal for our family and I think one of the best values out there.
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Re: Driver Comfort [gleppert] by allmet33
Sep 06, 2007 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: gleppert (Sep 05, 2007 7:43 pm)

I can tell you, the leather seats in the XR are a bit firmer. I test drove the XE initially and I just couldn't seem to get comfortable in the seat. However, in our XR...I'm fine.
 
You must have some huge feet or something. I'm 6'2", 215 lbs and I wear a size 12. I don't have an issue with the center console crowding the gas pedal at all.
 
Maybe you should consider a seat cushion, I know you can find them of varying firmness. Don't know what to tell you about the console issue.
 
Another good value out there is the Hyundai Veracruz. I test drove one yesterday just to see what it was about. The only issues I had with it were, not as much space behind the 3rd row seat as the Outlook, the 3rd row isn't as easily accessible as the Outlook and captain's chairs aren't an option.
 
The other thing that threw me off a bit with the Veracruz was the driver's seat seemed too high. However, to be honest...it's no higher than in the Outlook, but the side windows are lower, so it makes it seem like you're sitting up higher. I guess after driving the Outlook, it just felt weird, that's all. On the plus side, great seat comfort, throttle response to the gas pedal is very good, manual mode on transmission much easier to use, great Infinity sound system, ride comfort comparable to the Outlook. Fully loaded, a Veracruz will run you around $36K. I've seen Outlooks go for just over $41K fully loaded.
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Re: Driver Comfort [allmet33] by 62vetteefp
Sep 06, 2007 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 06, 2007 6:55 am)

I can tell you, the leather seats in the XR are a bit firmer. I test drove the XE initially and I just couldn't seem to get comfortable in the seat. However, in our XR...I'm fine.
 
The cushions are the same. Leather does not give like cloth and will make the seats feel firmer.
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Re: Driver Comfort [62vetteefp] by allmet33
Sep 06, 2007 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 06, 2007 7:02 am)

Okay...I didn't say the cushions were different. I just stated that the leather seats felt firmer than the cloth ones...that's all.
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Re: Driver Comfort [allmet33] by 62vetteefp
Sep 06, 2007 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Sep 06, 2007 7:08 am)

Just agreeing with you and saying why

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