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Re: Incentives??? [62vetteefp] by auto9999
Apr 02, 2007 (9:52 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 02, 2007 3:21 am)

In my observation these new "large" CUVs by GM are about the same size of typical minivans. Check out their specs side by side.
 
Acadia and its sister CUV are nice. I would opt for one of them to typical SUVs. But their price should not be compared to the Tahoes. They should be compared to Siennas.
 
This is a matter of marketing. The new CUV are essentially upgraded minivans, but with four doors in place of sliding doors. I think that people will soon come to realize that reality, after the fad of newness subsides.
 
Hyundai priced Veracruz almost identical to its minivan with similar equipments.
 
GM is so optimistic as to its pricing of its new triplet CUVs. I envisage that their selling price will soon go down till it becomes almost similar to minivans.
 
Soon Toyota will probably sell a Sienna-based CUVs. In fact, if the sliding door is replaced with the regular doors, it would be a direct competitor of Acadia. And the price is $1000s lower.
 
If you still see the Saturn Outlook advertisement right next to my message, imagine any minivan with four regular doors. Wouldn't they look competing vehicles to each other?
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Re: Incentives??? [auto9999] by 62vetteefp
Apr 03, 2007 (3:34 am)
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Replying to: auto9999 (Apr 02, 2007 9:52 pm)

I think you are wrong and right. All the CUV's coming out and the competition will cause the prices to be lowered, not the fact that they are minivans in drag.
 
Most everyone will not care if they are like minivans, they will only care that they look like trucks and not minivans. Time will tell but so far the CUV prices are holding up.
 
Even if the Sienna gets regular doors it still will look like an ugly minivan, not a truck.
 
The minivan is dead, Long live the CUV!!
 
Just yesterday I talked to my neighbor. She needs a new vehicle, does not want another minivan(4 kids). Tried to get an extended trailblazer but found out not built anymore. Loved the Acadia and will be getting one if they can find one. Finding hard to find.
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Reprogram transmission? by bobfish
Apr 03, 2007 (4:10 am)
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I ordered a Acadia on 2/8/07 and took delivery on 3/27/07,so far like everything about it except for the way the transmission shifts.I think someone in this forum stated there was a fix for this problem,by taking it to the dealer and having them reflash the programing of the transmission.My question;is this true?
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Re: Reprogram transmission? [bobfish] by zman3
Apr 03, 2007 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: bobfish (Apr 03, 2007 4:10 am)

According to an Acadia enthusiast site the TSB for this is:
 
No. 07058
 
Subject: ...Automatic Transmission Sluggish Performance When Accelerating From a Low Speed Maneuver... (Reprogram TCM) #07-07-30-003 - (02/20/2007)
 
Reprogram the transmission control module (TCM) with the new updated calibration.
 
Affected VINs:
2007 GMC Acadia 7J100107 7J128619
2007 Saturn Outlook 7J100001 7J128620
 
There may be newer updates to this. I am not certain.
 
Karl
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Re: Reprogram transmission? [bobfish] by 62vetteefp
Apr 03, 2007 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: bobfish (Apr 03, 2007 4:10 am)

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/outlook/
 
07058: Transmission Lag Recalibration (TSB)
 
Dealer Service Workorder, the code number of this Service Bulletin seems to be 07058 - "Svc Upd - Invent/Cust Veh - IMPROVED TRANS CONTROL CALS.
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Re: Incentives??? [auto9999] by jay_24
Apr 03, 2007 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: auto9999 (Apr 02, 2007 9:52 pm)

Soon Toyota will probably sell a Sienna-based CUVs. In fact, if the sliding door is replaced with the regular doors, it would be a direct competitor of Acadia. And the price is $1000s lower.
 
The Sienna only has 7 passenger capability for the AWD model, 1000 lbs less towing capicity, and has nearly identical invoice price tags for AWD.
 
XLE Limited-7 pass AWD invoice = $33,521
XLE-7 pass AWD invoice = $29,663
LE - 7 pass AWD invoice = $26,363
 
Acadia SLT-2 AWD invoice = $34,941
Acadia SLE-1 AWD invoice = $29,223
Outlook XE AWD invoice = $27,646
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Re: Incentives??? [jay_24] by 62vetteefp
Apr 03, 2007 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: jay_24 (Apr 03, 2007 5:21 am)

Thanks for the info. Looks like the Lamdas are priced to compete with the minivans already.
Look like SUV's, priced like minivans, interior capacity of minvans, towing capacity enough for most. No wonder they are selling so well.
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Re: Incentives??? [62vetteefp] by myblubu
Apr 03, 2007 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 03, 2007 5:30 am)

I'm wondering though about content, with options a fully loaded XR could be $10,000+ more than the base Outlook XE. Are those vehicles that were listed comparably equipped? Just curious...
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GMC Acadia and iPOD - need help! by acadiachuck
Apr 03, 2007 (6:17 am)
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I just got the new GMC Acadia and love it. Now I am looking to get an iPOD connector to I can listen to my IPOD music through the factory installed Acadia sound system. I see that the factory installed Acadia sound system has a small hole (similiar to the size of a headphone prong) on the stereo system right next to the word "AUX" so you can connect your IPOD or MP3 system -- I just can't seem to find the connector. Any ideas?
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Re: GMC Acadia and iPOD - need help! [acadiachuck] by brutus22
Apr 03, 2007 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: acadiachuck (Apr 03, 2007 6:17 am)

simply use a 1/8" mini plug to 1/8 mini plug out of your headphone output of your ipod into the 1/8" mini input of the car. Simple as that, you probably have to select AUX for the Stereo head unit.
 
But I recall reading how GM and a bunch of others were offering more integrated IPOD interfaces, here is a blurb I found:
"GM, on the other hand, has developed an iPod-specific device called the Personal Audio Link. This gadget, the size of a deck of cards, synchronizes the music player with the car's XM Satellite Radio band so that the XM interface can be used as controls--including displaying the song and artist information on the XM screen.
 
Like Ford's TripTunes Advanced, GM's iPod integration system will be located in the glove compartment and will also be able to charge the iPod while the ignition is running. The Personal Audio Link will make its debut this October in the 2006 and 2007 Chevrolet HHR sport utility vehicles; the carmaker will then gradually introduce the hardware into all 56 of its new car and truck models sold in the United States--mostly by the end of 2007.
 
GM's device will be an opt-in feature, retailing for about $160 plus installation charges. According to a statement from GM, a subscription to XM Satellite Radio will not be required for the Personal Audio Link to work."
 
Anyone have this set-up?
 
B.

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