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#2063 of 2998 Re: Plant 2 [zman3] by 62vetteefp Apr 02, 2007 (7:50 am)
Replying to: zman3 (Apr 02, 2007 4:37 am) They cannot meet demand with one plant building 2 models. This may be temporary but probably not. When a 3rd model comes in it will even be harder to meet demand. GM must have looked at 3 shifts and decided it could not meet demand. And 3 shifts may seem efficient but it has inefficiencies in a modern plant today. You cannot run 24 hours a day due to maintenence and other issues. Also GM may have more up their sleeve like building more than just Lamdas in one of the plants. How about a large FWD sedan based on Lamda? When the DTS/Lucerne get revised the G platform will be gone and no longer will there be a large FWD sedan platform.
#2064 of 2998 Re: Incentives??? [nxs138] by dmathews3 Apr 02, 2007 (1:40 pm)
Replying to: nxs138 (Apr 01, 2007 6:13 pm) There is NO second plant being built to produce these vehicles. They will go to a 3rd shift and overtime before that happens. Even if they decide to produce at a second plant you are talking close to 2 years for it to happen. Equipment to be bought, plant to be converted, people trained etc. It won't happen. I am the one who posted the no 3rd shift at this point. This came direct from the plant via the Lansing State Journal which is the newspaper where these vehicles are built. Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Apr 02, 2007 5:55 pm)
#2065 of 2998 Re: Car Seats Anyone [jay_24] by metmdx Apr 02, 2007 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: jay_24 (Mar 30, 2007 5:04 am) I beg to differ....Tahoe rear shoulder/hip room is 3-4 inches wider than Acadia...that could make all the difference between yay and nay,,,,
#2066 of 2998 Re: Incentives??? [dmathews3] by 62vetteefp Apr 02, 2007 (5:55 pm)
Replying to: dmathews3 (Apr 02, 2007 1:40 pm) There is NO second plant being built to produce these vehicles.   Like I said, they are not building a plant they are converting Spring Hill. It's been announced. Either 2009 modely year or calender year. I am not sure. But you are correct it is 2 years away. It is posible a 3rd shift could be added to Lansing. Sorry thought I posted the link.   General Motors officially let the car out of the bag this afternoon on the future of Saturn's soon-to-close factory in Spring Hill, Tenn.   The plant will produce a new Chevrolet crossover in 2009, GM North America President Troy Clarke told them during a plant visit.
#2067 of 2998 To Clear Things Up by tncarman Apr 02, 2007 (6:51 pm)
I live about 30 minutes from Spring Hill and our local news station had a story about the plant. According to them and the workers they interviewed, they all have garunteed jobs when the plant reopens sometime next year, they will recieve 84% of their yearly wages and stated the factory will be able to build any vehicle that GM produces, from trucks to coupes. Spring Hill and everyone around the area is not worried at all.
#2068 of 2998 Re: Incentives??? [62vetteefp] by auto9999 Apr 02, 2007 (9:52 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 02, 2007 3:21 am) In my observation these new "large" CUVs by GM are about the same size of typical minivans. Check out their specs side by side.   Acadia and its sister CUV are nice. I would opt for one of them to typical SUVs. But their price should not be compared to the Tahoes. They should be compared to Siennas.   This is a matter of marketing. The new CUV are essentially upgraded minivans, but with four doors in place of sliding doors. I think that people will soon come to realize that reality, after the fad of newness subsides.   Hyundai priced Veracruz almost identical to its minivan with similar equipments.   GM is so optimistic as to its pricing of its new triplet CUVs. I envisage that their selling price will soon go down till it becomes almost similar to minivans.   Soon Toyota will probably sell a Sienna-based CUVs. In fact, if the sliding door is replaced with the regular doors, it would be a direct competitor of Acadia. And the price is $1000s lower.   If you still see the Saturn Outlook advertisement right next to my message, imagine any minivan with four regular doors. Wouldn't they look competing vehicles to each other? Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Apr 03, 2007 3:34 am) steve_ (Apr 03, 2007 7:34 am) 62vetteefp (Apr 03, 2007 7:42 am) wlbrown9 (Apr 03, 2007 12:06 pm) jay_24 (Apr 03, 2007 5:21 am) 62vetteefp (Apr 03, 2007 5:30 am) myblubu (Apr 03, 2007 6:07 am) mss42 (Apr 20, 2007 11:05 pm) nxs138 (Apr 21, 2007 7:14 am)
#2069 of 2998 Re: Incentives??? [auto9999] by 62vetteefp Apr 03, 2007 (3:34 am)
Replying to: auto9999 (Apr 02, 2007 9:52 pm) I think you are wrong and right. All the CUV's coming out and the competition will cause the prices to be lowered, not the fact that they are minivans in drag.   Most everyone will not care if they are like minivans, they will only care that they look like trucks and not minivans. Time will tell but so far the CUV prices are holding up.   Even if the Sienna gets regular doors it still will look like an ugly minivan, not a truck.   The minivan is dead, Long live the CUV!!   Just yesterday I talked to my neighbor. She needs a new vehicle, does not want another minivan(4 kids). Tried to get an extended trailblazer but found out not built anymore. Loved the Acadia and will be getting one if they can find one. Finding hard to find. Replies to this message: steve_ (Apr 03, 2007 7:34 am) 62vetteefp (Apr 03, 2007 7:42 am) wlbrown9 (Apr 03, 2007 12:06 pm)
#2070 of 2998 Reprogram transmission? by bobfish Apr 03, 2007 (4:10 am)
I ordered a Acadia on 2/8/07 and took delivery on 3/27/07,so far like everything about it except for the way the transmission shifts.I think someone in this forum stated there was a fix for this problem,by taking it to the dealer and having them reflash the programing of the transmission.My question;is this true? Replies to this message: zman3 (Apr 03, 2007 4:54 am) 62vetteefp (Apr 03, 2007 4:57 am)
#2071 of 2998 Re: Reprogram transmission? [bobfish] by zman3 Apr 03, 2007 (4:54 am)
Replying to: bobfish (Apr 03, 2007 4:10 am) According to an Acadia enthusiast site the TSB for this is:   No. 07058   Subject: ...Automatic Transmission Sluggish Performance When Accelerating From a Low Speed Maneuver... (Reprogram TCM) #07-07-30-003 - (02/20/2007)   Reprogram the transmission control module (TCM) with the new updated calibration.   Affected VINs: 2007 GMC Acadia 7J100107 7J128619 2007 Saturn Outlook 7J100001 7J128620   There may be newer updates to this. I am not certain.   Karl
#2072 of 2998 Re: Reprogram transmission? [bobfish] by 62vetteefp Apr 03, 2007 (4:57 am)
Replying to: bobfish (Apr 03, 2007 4:10 am) http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/outlook/   07058: Transmission Lag Recalibration (TSB)   Dealer Service Workorder, the code number of this Service Bulletin seems to be 07058 - "Svc Upd - Invent/Cust Veh - IMPROVED TRANS CONTROL CALS.

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