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Re: DVD player question [myblubu] by nxs138
Apr 01, 2007 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: myblubu (Apr 01, 2007 1:23 pm)

Don't know if it's at all visible on the NAV, but certainly not when in movement. However there are plenty of aftermarket plug-ins that can take bypass all these "lawyer" features (and will also allow you to input commands on the NAV while the vehicle is moving). You have to be able to get behind the radio, though, which can be a pain.
 
Of course it's up to you whether or not you feel it's safe to watch a movie while driving...I personally would not.
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Re: Incentives??? [nxs138] by 62vetteefp
Apr 01, 2007 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Apr 01, 2007 8:19 am)

Are they adding a 3rd shift to that plant? ha ha.
 
Do not get it. Does anybody?
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Re: DVD player question [myblubu] by 62vetteefp
Apr 01, 2007 (5:11 pm)
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Replying to: myblubu (Apr 01, 2007 1:23 pm)

Only if you are in Park. That is the way the SRX works. There are some aftermarket companies that can revise you vehicle to allow viewing while driving.
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Re: Incentives??? [62vetteefp] by nxs138
Apr 01, 2007 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 01, 2007 5:10 pm)

Someone had posted, maybe 2 weeks ago or so (I just searched, it was post #1918), that GM was not adding a 3rd shift at the plant as to not flood the market place with Acadias and keep prices higher.
 
So I took this opportunity to make a pointed sarcastic and unfunny comment (hence the 'ha ha') to show that I never believed for one second that GM was purposely slowing down production by not adding a 3rd shift just to keep prices higher. Building another plant kinda shows that it really wants to meet demands.
 
Have I cleared things up?
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Re: Incentives??? [62vetteefp] by zman3
Apr 01, 2007 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 01, 2007 5:10 pm)

I am guessing that the point is that they are not building a new, additional plant. If anything they would add an additional shift to the existing plant.
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Re: Incentives??? [nxs138] by 62vetteefp
Apr 02, 2007 (3:21 am)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Apr 01, 2007 6:13 pm)

Yep.
 
Hope they do not flood the market and IMO they will not.
 
The days of huge Suburbans and Tahoes and Expeditions amd Trailblazers all over the road will subside (but NOT go away) and LARGE CUV's will take some of that business. And that is a HUGE market. And the Lamdas are the best in the market today for large CUV's. I think the biggest issue is that they look small on the outside!
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Plant 2 [zman3] by 62vetteefp
Apr 02, 2007 (3:29 am)
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Replying to: zman3 (Apr 01, 2007 6:51 pm)

Saturn workers can go on layoff without worry now -- they will return as Chevrolet workers.
 
But when?
 
General Motors officially let the car out of the bag this afternoon on the future of Saturn's soon-to-close factory in Spring Hill, Tenn.
 
The plant will produce a new Chevrolet crossover in 2009, GM North America President Troy Clarke told them during a plant visit.
 
The question has been a source of anxiety for some the 4,200 hourly workers at Spring Hill. Although sources have indicated that a Lambda-platform Chevy was definitely planned for Spring Hill, many workers had their doubts.
 
"We're just worried that GM hasn't told us what's coming," assembly worker Craig Fincher said earlier this week as he prepared for an extended layoff. "It would be nice to have that little reassurance that something's coming for us. Why haven't they said?"
 
Today, Clarke said.
 
"Do you know a plant that wants to build a Chevy crossover?" Clarke asked the cheering crowd. "Well, guess what? You're going to."
 
Clarke told workers the Chevy would start in 2009. He did not clarify whether he meant calendar year 2009 or model year 2009.
 
The difference is important, since a calendar-year 2009 start would mean a much longer lay-off for the thousands of Spring Hill employees and some 10,000 dependent supplier jobs. The plant has been planning on a 14-16 month suspension until now, which would indicate a late summer 2008 reopening.
 
In Detroit, GM would only confirm in a brief prepared statement that it had shared business information with employees "that they will have a future product upon their return."
 
"We are not prepared to discuss the specific product at this time," the statement read, "as it is still more than two years away."
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Re: Plant 2 [62vetteefp] by zman3
Apr 02, 2007 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 02, 2007 3:29 am)

I don't really consider that building a new plant (or re-tooling an existing one) to meet current demand. That is more future demand once the Chevrolet is in place. Different perspectives, I guess.
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Re: Plant 2 [zman3] by 62vetteefp
Apr 02, 2007 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: zman3 (Apr 02, 2007 4:37 am)

They cannot meet demand with one plant building 2 models. This may be temporary but probably not. When a 3rd model comes in it will even be harder to meet demand. GM must have looked at 3 shifts and decided it could not meet demand. And 3 shifts may seem efficient but it has inefficiencies in a modern plant today. You cannot run 24 hours a day due to maintenence and other issues. Also GM may have more up their sleeve like building more than just Lamdas in one of the plants. How about a large FWD sedan based on Lamda? When the DTS/Lucerne get revised the G platform will be gone and no longer will there be a large FWD sedan platform.
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Re: Incentives??? [nxs138] by dmathews3
Apr 02, 2007 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Apr 01, 2007 6:13 pm)

There is NO second plant being built to produce these vehicles. They will go to a 3rd shift and overtime before that happens. Even if they decide to produce at a second plant you are talking close to 2 years for it to happen. Equipment to be bought, plant to be converted, people trained etc. It won't happen. I am the one who posted the no 3rd shift at this point. This came direct from the plant via the Lansing State Journal which is the newspaper where these vehicles are built.

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