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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [62vetteefp] by tdiidman
Mar 26, 2007 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Mar 26, 2007 5:01 am)

The problem is that many potential Acadia customers do not have Verizon as their cellular provider; many of us have family plans with other providers (I have Cingular-AT&T). Providing bluetooth capability gives buyers the most flexibility, since not all will want to go with the OnStar option considering its extra expense. Using OnStar for phone calls is significantly more expensive compared to a standard cell phone plan, particularly if other family members are on that plan. To me, GM made a mistake in not offering bluetooth on this vehicle and I hope they rectify this very soon (hopefully in 2008).
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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [tdiidman] by wlbrown9
Mar 26, 2007 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: tdiidman (Mar 26, 2007 5:46 am)

But, IF you happen to be a Verizon customer with at shared minute family plan, it only cost $10 per month to add this as an additional phone. I have a Verizon family plan, but have not added our Envoy in to the plan yet. It is a 2004 model and is analog - digital capable On-Star and would require an upgrade to digital.
 
I kind of agree with you about the GM options available...I think GM is really pushing their On-Star option...kind of self serving I think.
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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [imidazol97] by markcincinnati
Mar 26, 2007 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 26, 2007 4:47 am)

Can't figure it out. . . .
 
New CTS (rumor) by Cadillac will come with Bluetooth for European exports. 6 months later, BT for US.
 
BT provides so much flexibility, ease of use, easy commands (mostly just say "dial number" or "call home" in most implementations, etc) -- On*star with Verizon -- hey that would be OK with us, we have Cincinnati Bell which allows you to use their systems without contract, so moving to Verizon would not be an issue.
 
But, of course, Verizon almost certainly will not allow the same no contract approach.
 
My BT phone paired with my car in June 2005 within seconds of me turning the BT feature on -- on the phone itself.
 
The voice response works perfectly (about 98% of the time.)
 
And the in car cradle means no battery worries.
 
The Acadia seems to be so very well thought out -- and with a 60% residual from GMAC -- it seems to be competitive with BMW's X cars.
 
The Germans, so I used to think, were always late in adopting technologies that American and Japanese cars had had for years (automatic headlights were on American cars decades ago, for example.) Now a really well thought out piece of technology comes out -- the Acadia -- and it lacks Bluetooth but it has an iPod plug (which in our case means little since the thing has sat radio.)
 
I'll assume this "oversight" will be short lived.
 
But, the fact (unless it is unproven) that the new 2008 CTS will ship BT to Europe for 6 months THEN offer it to US customers is perplexing.
 
Hope you're right about Ohio -- but strange things may happen, I'd rather be ready than ticketed.
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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [imidazol97] by mrblonde49
Mar 26, 2007 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 26, 2007 4:47 am)

"I just checked for adding Bluetooth capability. Looks like easily done aftermarketers. See this portable Bluetooth unit--wait for the commercial to run in the video window at top. Interestingly simple. Got Bluetooth? "
 
I agree. While this should have been an option, the Onstar alliance seems to complicate matters. And it's way to expensive to use Onstar for even a moderate cell phone user.
 
But it's amazingly simple to add Bluetooth these days. They have all-in-one units that you charge like an earpiece and clip to your visor. Works with voice dialing. The Parrot minikit has gotten great reviews and I'll probably be getting one soon (I don't work for parrot, I just did some reasearch and this one looks good for the price). Spend more $$ and you can get even better
 
http://www.parrot.biz/usa/products/parrotminikit
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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [mrblonde49] by imidazol97
Mar 26, 2007 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: mrblonde49 (Mar 26, 2007 6:47 am)

I personally have no need for Bluetooth, but I felt it was over emphasized in other discussions that it's 'there' in a car as if it was the ultimate option and not having it made the other car worthless. But I'm sure the local alarm/sound modification shop can add it in an integrated system so I looked and found the Parrot, which looks doable for me.
 
As for OnStar, they gave me an analogue system on my 03 and then everything will be phased out to digital but it's not upgradeable and it's too expensive per month for what it did. Mine's dead. Is OnStar a separate company or a GM subsidiary? What is the connection?
 
And the Verizon connection using your Verizon-priced minutes on the OnStar handsfree wasn't available in this area and probably wouldn't have worked on our analogue system.
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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [imidazol97] by wlbrown9
Mar 26, 2007 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 26, 2007 7:13 am)

Yep. Has to be digital On-Star to use Verizon minutes. Our 2004 is upgradeable to digitial. 2 years ago there was a deal to renew with a non-refundable 3 year contract and get a free upgrade to digital equipment. On reason was that took you past the January 1, 2008 analog drop dead date. I had already renewed for 2 year (3 months additional free with 2 year renewal) when I found out about the 3 year - free digital upgrade option. I'll be checking again later this year when my renewal comes up.
 
Note, I have only used On-Star one time, so I guess it has been worth it...car wash somehow got the doors locked and was suggesting calling Pop-A-Lock, etc. I called the wife and she found the renewal papers, called On-Star and within 5 minutes had the doors remotely unlocked. Well, it would have been cheaper to have the wife bring her keys and unlock it, but it does have some potential benefit if you even need their emergency services such as air bag deployment, locate vehicle if stolen, etc.
 
Looking at the On-Star site, it looks as if On-Star is part of GM, site show ON-STAR by GM.
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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [wlbrown9] by wlbrown9
Mar 26, 2007 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Mar 26, 2007 9:24 am)

A little more on the analog On-Star. Looked at my account on-line. There is an option to renew for 1 year that includes upgrade to digital On-Star for a $15 charge in addition to the renewal cost of $199/year + tax. Notes I found on the site indicate that if I do NOT get the upgrade, I can only renew month-month until the end of the year, then no more On-Star.
 
(Apparently if you have let your On-Star lapse, there is a $100 activation fee to get the upgrade.)
 
Alternate is to do a 2 year renewal and get 3 additional months free, not sure how that affects the digital upgrade. IIRC, I asked about the digital upgrade 2 years ago and was told that if you paid for it, it would run about $600.
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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [markcincinnati] by budi
Mar 26, 2007 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Mar 26, 2007 4:22 am)

I don't understand what all the hubbub is about bluetooth. I use a standard ear bud,microphone and 2.5mm connector and it works fine. I have been using this setup for the past 4 years with no problems. I don't have to worry about a BT unit being charged. I think a vast majority of people that use BT are using it for the perceived "I look cool and I am a big shot important person factor".
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Pick it up tomorrow by bobfish
Mar 26, 2007 (11:12 am)
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Well ordered our Acadia on 2/08/07 the dealer said it would take 6 to 8 weeks. Got a call from the dealer today(3/26/07)and said our Acadia was ready,we will be picking it up tomorrow.By my calculations that made it 7 weeks.
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Re: Impression and preliminary decision [budi] by 62vetteefp
Mar 26, 2007 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: budi (Mar 26, 2007 10:19 am)

Actually the Bluetooth ear piece is getting very popular. The issue I have is people seem to think it is part of their head. In church you see all these blinking lights

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