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#11 of 2998 Nailed the styling by morey000 Jan 17, 2006 (7:27 am)
Buick certainly nailed the styling! The only thing that I don't like about it is the Buick grill, as it reminds me of too many cars that are dull. But they integrated the new Buick engine portholes well. While Edmunds implies that the world doesn't need another crossover vehicle, a better one is always appreciated. And one that doesn't carry the station wagon/minivan image should sell well.   Yeah, the Mercedes R-class is one ugly vehicle. Right up there with some of the products AMC put out in the early 70's. Replies to this message: gtforme2 (Mar 16, 2006 2:19 pm) gmhellman (Mar 16, 2006 7:39 pm)
#12 of 2998 OUTLOOK'S front by rajagopal Jan 25, 2006 (4:14 pm)
we do not know the front of the OUTLOOk
#13 of 2998 Arcadia/Outlook/Enclave by gmhellman Mar 15, 2006 (8:37 am)
This forum is surprisingly dead....although there has not been any new information from GM regarding these vehicles lately. I have to been looking for a quality, good looking crossover vehicle. I was considering the Ford Edge, but the Enclave styling and options blew me away. I wonder if this is the drivetrain that was built between the partnership with ford. The edge will have a 3.5L 250hp v6 with six speed auto. The enclave will get 3.6l 270hp v6 with the six speed auto. I probably can't afford the buick version, but I suspect that the buick will be the top with saturn in the middle and the gmc at the bottom end in terms of pricing and options. I definitly hope that one model has the option to fold the rear most seat into the floor like a minivan to increase carrying capacity. I would like to see one of these start at around 25,000 for the base and obviously go up from there in terms of options and price. I don't need 4-6 dvd screens or 3 zone climate control. I would be happy with one bigger dvd screem for the rear, infrared headphones and two zone climate control. I definitly think that HID lights are a must and side impact curtain airbags. Each vehicle should come with remote start, and onstar and xm radio, power door locks,windows, adjustable foot pedals and tilt/telescoping steering wheel as standard options. Is this eventually going to be the design that will replace the nox/torrent? Or is this not going to be rebranded into oblivion?   Greg Replies to this message: navigator89 (Mar 16, 2006 4:52 am) gmhellman (Mar 16, 2006 5:15 am) alpha01 (Mar 16, 2006 11:04 am)
#14 of 2998 Re: Arcadia/Outlook/Enclave [gmhellman] by navigator89 Mar 16, 2006 (4:52 am)
Replying to: gmhellman (Mar 15, 2006 8:37 am) From what I know, the Equinox and Torrent arent going away anytime soon. Why should they, after all they're pretty good vehicles with good sales. The new trio of GM crossovers will have 3 rows and will be bigger and priced higher than the Equinox/Torrent.   I belives they're going to be shown at the New York Auto Show in April, hopefully we'll get more info then. Replies to this message: gmhellman (Mar 16, 2006 5:15 am) alpha01 (Mar 16, 2006 11:04 am)
#15 of 2998 Re: Arcadia/Outlook/Enclave [navigator89] by gmhellman Mar 16, 2006 (5:15 am)
Replying to: navigator89 (Mar 16, 2006 4:52 am) I thought maybe they were being phased out like the Rendezvous and Rainer. I know that the Rendezvous is an older vehicle than the nox and torrent. I drove an equinox and was unimpressed with the steering and the body. It felt like I was driving a bloated over weight minivan with poor visisbility. The styling is better on the Torrent, but it still has the same problems as the nox. I am thoroughly impressed with what I have seen by the pictures and information available on the new models coming out from GM. I am probably more interested in the GMC version as it will probably be more in my price range. The Buick is gorgeous and has some very interesting features, but probably will be priced at more than I want to spend.   Greg
#16 of 2998 Easter is it by lasberry Mar 16, 2006 (8:53 am)
I recently attended the Oklahoma City International Auto Show. There, I discovered that the Saturn website will have more information on the Outlook around Easter weekend. I sincerely hope that he was correct.   I recently sat in a Saturn View and discovered that the dash was rather unattractive.
#17 of 2998 Re: Arcadia/Outlook/Enclave [navigator89] by alpha01 Mar 16, 2006 (11:04 am)
Replying to: navigator89 (Mar 16, 2006 4:52 am) Actually, the Equinox and Torrent arent very good vehicles in 2006 standards, and they sell well, but numbers are definitely boosted by corporate and rental fleet sales.   ~alpha
#18 of 2998 Re: Nailed the styling [morey000] by gtforme2 Mar 16, 2006 (2:19 pm)
Replying to: morey000 (Jan 17, 2006 7:27 am) I agree. GM got this right. There is virtually nothing I don't like about the styling and interior. Feel the interior is so far ahead of everything out there (with possible exception of Lexus RX330). I hope they stay with it (although need to keep vehicle affordable, if try to price to high won't get buyers). GM quality reputation will be the test, although if memory serves me correctly, recent quality surveys has Buick's coming up strong.   We have had 4 minivans starting with the Voyager and moving up to T&C's(2). My wife has had it. Didn't want to spend the money on the larger SUV's with poor gas mileage and didn't think got much space for size of vehicle. After driving mid-size SUV's found wanting on space and comfort. However, still somewhat thirsty and ride comfort is only mediocre. Seating was tight (especially with 3rd row). Seating room in Enclave looks like will be car like (roomy).   I want the HID Lights (neighbor has on Murano and man they make a difference). Love the chrome wheels (combined with the chrome exhaust tips) give a sort of masculine sport look. Replies to this message: gmhellman (Mar 16, 2006 7:39 pm)
#19 of 2998 Re: Nailed the styling [gtforme2] by gmhellman Mar 16, 2006 (7:39 pm)
Replying to: gtforme2 (Mar 16, 2006 2:19 pm) I completely agree. This is the first midsize SUV/Crossover/Whatever you want to call it that really intrigues me. I have owned GM, Chrysler, Ford and Foreign brands (Honda,Toyota). The problems that I had in the American models were no more different than in the foreign models (except the extra price for the foreign maintenance) I have noticed that many people in the Buick Forums have had less complaints in the new models. I am excited to see the models, especially the GMC and Saturn versions. I think the Buick will probably be out of our price range. Hopefully they will release more photos soon or at least some info.....I am dying to see the final products.   Greg
#20 of 2998 Outlook by jimc16 Mar 17, 2006 (8:22 am)
I agree that GM will have a hit on its hands when these 3 SUVs go on sale. I hope they differentiate them with more than trim and wheels. From what I have read, the Buick is well over 200 inches long, which makes it as big as a Tahoe. That's fine as long as one of the models (Saturn I hope) is about 12 to 16 inches shorter. A crossover at about 186-188 inches long would finally provide competition for the Lexus RX350, Acura MDX, BMW X5, Nissan Murano, Infiniti FX, Honda Pilot, and Toyota Highlander, all imports. Ford will be competing in this market segment soon with the Edge and the Lincoln MKX. GM also needs to be in this segment. The new models need a high output sophisticated Northstar based engine, at least as an option. I don't consider the Equinox/Torrent in this market because of their poor Chinese engines and poor steering. They are more in the Suzuki/Kia market.   Basically, one model needs to be a sporty, high performance miidsized crossover. Even the new Toyota RAV4 offers a high output V6 and sport suspension. GM needs to also. Replies to this message: albook (Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am) cajun_mike (Dec 05, 2006 9:22 pm) 62vetteefp (Dec 06, 2006 5:51 am)

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