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BMW 3 Series, Tires
#591 of 3108 Re: bmw run flat tires [blueguydotcom]
Dec 05, 2006 (9:56 am)
"You bought a sport sedan and expected to get 50-60k miles out the tires?
30k miles is a crazy amount for a BMW."
Oddly enough, before brave1heart and I swapped cars (for a couple of days) and I had a chance to truly experience and appreciate the capabilities of BMWs Sport Package, I ordered a 1999 328i non-SP. When I turned that car in at lease end with 45,000 miles on the clock, the factory All-Season tires had an EASY 15,000 miles left on them. That said, most of those miles were consumed during my daily Tappan Zee grind, a commute that isn't exactly challenging to the tires. :-/
#592 of 3108 Re: Recall Request [pat]
Dec 05, 2006 (11:49 am)
I read all the reviews and it seems to me they were all done within the first 1,000 Miles or less. Only two or three tire complaints.
Everyone I know with the Non Sport package RFT,s have had the problems. Starting anywhere from 5 K miles and above.
#593 of 3108 Re: Recall Request [owner6]
Dec 05, 2006 (1:46 pm)
Well, we can't help when people file their reviews, but I know that for me, a review by someone who has driven their car for a good length of time carries a lot more weight than one by someone who is barely off the dealer's lot.
Do you own a 3-Series? Have you filed your review?
#594 of 3108 Re: Recall Request [circlew]
Dec 06, 2006 (4:38 am)
I think you will find that the National Highway and Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) are only interested in things related to safety - like tires failing. Noise, vibration and wear don't qualify.
I would suggest energies be channeled into areas that might have a chance of reaching sympathetic ears - like the Federal Trade Commission.
#595 of 3108 Re: Recall Request [pat]
Dec 06, 2006 (10:14 am)
Yes I have a 2006 330I. No i haven't filed a review. Ill do so in the near future.
PS: I had a 2002, gave to my son. It has 65K miles and except for Brakes and Rotors it has had no mechanical/service problems. Tires were replaced at about 40K Mls.
#596 of 3108 Re: Recall Request [owner6]
Dec 06, 2006 (11:56 am)
Good, I'll look forward to seeing it!
#597 of 3108 EL 42 RFT Experience
Dec 07, 2006 (5:33 am)
Have been following this forum since purchase of my 2006 325xi non-SP in April 2006. Had El 42 GFT on my 2004 Acura TL. They were noisy with mediocre handling. Switched to Bridgestone Turanza LH and things improved immensely. Currently have 15,000 plus miles on EL 42 RFTs. Same problems as Acura. However, I ignored BMW's recommendation not to rotate tires (sounded stupid to me) and rotated tires every 5,000 miles. Unfortunately, the tires are wearing evenly and well. Will easily get 30,000 plus from the tires. Not sure yet if I will stay with RFTs when these do finally wear out.
Dec 07, 2006 (9:14 am)
Guys the solution is to rotate tires just as we have done in the past. DO NOT follow BMWs recommendation not to rotate. Rotate by moving the rear tires
straight forward - no not cross over. Take the fronts and cross them on the way back. Right fron to left rear and left front to right rear. Do it every 5,000. This will result in even wear and cause the cupping to cancell out when you move the old fronts forward on the second rotation and all subsequent. The cupping is on the outside front tires and it gets worse as time goes on.I got my EL42s replaced by Firestone by dealing directly with Firestone National Customer Relations. All it cost me was mounting and balance and road hazard and stems. 4 new tires free!
Dec 07, 2006 (9:44 am)
Wow, if one were to rotate back tires to fronts, that'd make for a very odd handling car given the rears on 330/335is are wider than the fronts.
#600 of 3108 Re: ! [paflyer]
Dec 07, 2006 (10:20 am)
"Guys the solution is to rotate tires just as we have done in the past."
"Rotate by moving the rear tires straight forward - no not cross over. Take the fronts and cross them on the way back. Right front to left rear and left front to right rear."
Not advised. While I don't know about the EL42s, many tires these days are directional and crossing over would cause directional tires to rotate backwards. Even when tires aren't directional, I don't believe that I've ever read a manufacturers recommendation to cross radial tires. Simply put, rotate tires front to back, keeping them on the same side, is the proper method of rotating radials.
Caution: The above comments are applicable to cars that have the same sized tires both front and rear, unlike all "i" model E90s with the SP. For SP equipped 3-Series cars ("i" models only), your only options are to A) put up with the noise, B) replace the tires early, or C) buy wheels and tires that are symmetrical for both front and back.