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BMW 3 Series, Tires
#3087 of 3108 Re: BMW 335i Sport w/RFTs [busiris]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 25, 2012 (5:25 pm)
Oh that's quite interesting. I didn't have a clue about that.
#3088 of 3108 Re: BMW 335i Sport w/RFTs [busiris]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jun 26, 2012 (3:20 am)
One other point (courtesy of capriracer)..
Treadwear ratings are not necessarily consistent between manufacturers.. just between tire models within their own brand.
I know... that makes no sense, but nevertheless..
So a 200 treadwear tire from Michelin will have half the treadwear of a 400 tire from Michelin, but might not be the same as a 200 treadwear tire from Bridgestone..
#3089 of 3108 Re: BMW 335i Sport w/RFTs [kyfdx]
Jun 26, 2012 (3:53 am)
'.......One other point (courtesy of capriracer)......."
Sorry, but you've got that wrong.
You CAN compare treadwear ratings between brands because they are compared to the same - standard - tire. The problem is that there can be a lot of games played, so you have to realize the number is not precise.
And the problem exists within brands as well.
So a 200 treadwear tire from Michelin will have about half the treadwear of ANY 400 tire regardless of brand. The operative words here is "about".
#3090 of 3108 Re: BMW 335i Sport w/RFTs [Mr_Shiftright]
Jun 26, 2012 (8:15 am)
I used the Nissan Versa example because of personal experience. I have 2 daughters, one with an 09 Versa and the other with an 08 Altima. Both cars came equipped with the same series Continental tires.
The Versa tires had no tread left at 30K miles, while the tires on the Altima have over 50K miles, and at this point, I think they'll easily pass 80K miles. There were no alignment issues on either car, which I had verified by a local shop.
Now, some might say that different driving characteristics are at play, and to some extent, that's true. In this case, I replaced the Versa tires with a set of Generals, and with 25K plus miles on that set, they hardly look worn.
If you ever see diametrically opposed tire-wear reviews on sites like www.tirerack.com, this scenario is quite likely the reason for the wide swings and discrepancies. So, even though a particular sized tire in a brand gets exceptional/poor mileage, it may or may not reflect what one would see on a different sized tire of the same brand/series.
#3091 of 3108 Re: BMW 335i Sport w/RFTs [busiris]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 26, 2012 (8:55 am)
Fact is, the treadware rating started out as a good idea but has morphed into something that is "not what it seems" and so, is only of limited use to the consumer.
#3092 of 3108 Re: BMW 335i Sport w/RFTs [runningdoc]
Jul 22, 2012 (12:06 pm)
If you want a UHP all season GFT I would suggest the Cooper Zeon RS3-A and the Pirelli PZero Nero All-Season. I've run both tires on BMWs as well as a Mazdaspeed 3 and I've been very happy with their performance and tread life.
For an inexpensive summer tire that you can also track I strongly suggest the Dunlop Direzza Star Spec. If your car doesn't see the track all that much I like the Michelin Pilot Super Sport- although it is a bit pricey.
#3093 of 3108 Re: Wheel and Tire Insurance DOES Cover Replacements [foxyesq]
Jan 18, 2013 (5:16 pm)
How much did you pay for the Tire warranty? How many years? What tire size?
#3094 of 3108 Sport vs standard
Apr 18, 2013 (2:55 am)
A lot of the comments about wear fail to distinguish between the base tire and the sport package tire, which is very sticky and has a very short life. In my experience the RE050 becomes very noisy long before the tread wears out (around 10K miles on the current set, with plenty of tread left).
As for the concerns about the snow traction of the summer-only sport package tire on a $45,000 car, well, this raises questions about the need for anything beyond a very rudimentary education to do well in today's economy.
#3095 of 3108 One data point Re: Sport vs standard [nkeen]
Apr 18, 2013 (3:16 am)
The Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 Run Flats on the BMW 335iS I am driving [ includes MSport Package ] are 225/40ZR18 fronts & 255/35ZR18 rears.
At 24,000 miles, I perceive no significant increase in noise, so far. Tread is wearing well. The Goodyear Run Flats on the 2007 Corvette I drove for over 30,000 miles were well worn, and noisier, but these Michelins appear better in every aspect.
[[ Living in the Atlanta area, the snow performance is not a high priority for me. ]]
For Run Flats, these are the best I have yet encountered . . .
#3096 of 3108 Re: One data point Re: Sport vs standard [rayainsw]
Apr 18, 2013 (3:56 am)
Ray, thanks for the info. I don't see them in 17" on Tire Rack. Wonder if they are available elsewhere.