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BMW 3 Series, Tires
#3014 of 3108 Re: Is it all fault of the RTF? [steveaccord]
Jan 29, 2012 (3:21 pm)
I just replaced the OEM run flats on my 2007 BMW 328xi coupe. They had 30K. I replaced them with get flats…the Continental DWS. I could not stand the noise any more and I contacted many many dealers and discussed it at length. I purchased a donut from Barvarian Motorsport for $335, it is the exact same donut I would get from BMW dealer in US if they would sell it to me. They won't. You have to go to Canada to purchase the donut kit. I don't understand why the dealers wont sell it here ( Im in the Northeast) but they all told me they can't order it, the orders get rejected.
Meanwhile, I am thrilled with the Conti DWS, great handling in wet. Good handling in snow…we only had about a 5 inch snow so far this season but the car was so improved from my old tires it makes me wish I did this last year. Best of all, the noise is finally GONE….
Not sure why the OEM were so noisy. We also have a 2011 535xi equipped with Conti run flats, same tire as my 2007 had, just different size. That car has 23 K and its not noisy. I called Continental and Tire Rack to discuss if the compound on the newer tires would create less noise if I got "updated" run flats. Clearly noise is an issue in the 3 Series, they told me they would be the same as my OEM. Maybe its the size of the tire...
#3015 of 3108 had Conti DWS for a year
Jan 29, 2012 (3:29 pm)
however not in snow as this year didn't snow much. Definitely quieter and smoother over bumps. I did unfortunately had a side-wall puncture/flat from hitting a pothole after a week of getting it 20k miles later it's running fine. I also got a donut but no longer carries in trunk for the daily commute (save weight and shifts around in trunk.
#3016 of 3108 Re: Is it all fault of the RTF? [steveaccord]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 29, 2012 (4:55 pm)
Well the RFTs on my MINI used to sound like Maria Callas on a bad day.
#3017 of 3108 Re: Is it all fault of the RTF? [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 29, 2012 (6:08 pm)
Oh My! That is the most alarming bit I have heard in so far on the topic. Let me recommend to restore your auditive sensory perception by listening to the Lucia di Lammermoor on EMI classic label or 'The very best of Maria Callas' or the more recent release by EMI classics 'The very best of Maria Callas'. There is still nowadays a good reason to believe the attribute "La Divina" bestowed on her was absolutely deserved. Make sure you buy the CDs, any digital compression cannot capture the 'dynamic qualities and timber' of such voice.
#3018 of 3108 2011 Convertible w 17" RFTs
Feb 12, 2012 (4:30 pm)
I'm a newby to BMWs and am picking up my first one next week. Was doing a little research on the RFTs that it has and am now concerned with the negative comments I've seen (most are dated a few years).
1. Are there still reliability / performance issues with the run flat tires?
2. Any thoughts on the tire/wheel warranty that BMW offers? 5 yrs for about $1500.
Any advice is appreciated.
#3019 of 3108 Re: 2011 Convertible w 17" RFTs [johnnynuke]
Feb 12, 2012 (4:42 pm)
They are reliable for not getting a flat, but they will get really loud as they wear out. Too expensive, my Bridgestones only lasted 15k, pure trash.
#3020 of 3108 Re: 2011 Convertible w 17" RFTs [johnnynuke]
Feb 12, 2012 (4:51 pm)
The primary concern I have with the RFT concept is the ability to get them replaced or (rarely) repaired in the hinterlands. These tires seem to be made with the assumption that when one needs replacement there's a place just down the street who will do the work. In my part of the world, that's most assuredly not the case. Getting them repaired, by the twelve shops on the planet who are willing to do so, isn't especially straightforward either.
If you live in one of the overcrowded areas on the coasts and rarely travel very far you'll probably think they're okay, but expensive.
If not. . .
#3021 of 3108 Re: 2011 Convertible w 17" RFTs [johnnynuke]
Feb 12, 2012 (8:00 pm)
the fact that the insurance is now $1500 says it all. i think it was originally $350 and has gone up and up. can be only one reason....the tires suck. just got a 335 and will change out the rft to a regular tire and will buy the spare kit.
#3022 of 3108 Re: 2011 Convertible w 17" RFTs [johnnynuke]
Feb 13, 2012 (5:56 pm)
The answer to your first question varies with where you drive your vehicle and the brand of the RTF mounted on the car you are purchasing.
Most of the complaints in this post refer to the Bridgestone RTF, others have had better experience with other brands/models
Also if roads you tend to drive are not in good conditions with lots of uneven surfaces and potholes I would suggest not to go RTF.
Lastly, should you get your car with RTF I would definitely go with tire/wheel insurance coverage.....just ask for a 3 years coverage, the 5years does not make much sense since it is unlikely that you will not be changing them later than 3 and the insurance is on the specific tires installed on the car at time of purchase. When you will replace them you will have the option to sign up on additional coverage if that will make sense.
In my experience the insurance pays off big time with RTF, but as pointed out by others, I paid only $350 for my policy (5 years, but basically used it for 3 before changing to non RTF tires).
I hope this helps
#3023 of 3108 Re: 2011 Convertible w 17" RFTs [steveaccord]
Feb 13, 2012 (6:27 pm)
and what happens when you get a spike in ur tire, you are 3 hrs away from ur destination that happens to be a very important engagement and dont have time to find a tire store to replace it? like what happened to me and i missed a very important meeting. a spare tire is a good idea.