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BMW 3 Series, Tires
#2828 of 3108 Re: How do you buy a lease terminated BMW? [1socalgal]
May 07, 2011 (4:49 pm)
I wouldn't buy or lease a BMW on a bet.. I am that disgusted with them. Yep my S2000 is so much more car price per pound than BMW can ever remeber what made them "hip" to begin with (2002). 3 Series is a joke. Can't wait for my lease to end. I absolutely hate run flat tires and that BMW has taken away our ability to customize our cars for our performance preferences. Ultimate driving machine? Used to be... Having read several posts I have to remind myself that the people who respond may not know what a clutch peddle does...or where it is...
#2829 of 3108 Re: How do you buy a lease terminated BMW? [boston303]
May 07, 2011 (5:33 pm)
Having read several posts I have to remind myself that the people who respond may not know what a clutch peddle does...or where it is...
Not only do many of us know what a clutch pedal is, we also know the correct spelling for it as well....
Sorry... I couldn't resist.
#2830 of 3108 Re: How do you buy a lease terminated BMW? [1socalgal]
May 07, 2011 (5:38 pm)
You can certainly change out the tires on a leased vehicle. All you have to do is turn it back in with the original RF tires. I know several people that have done exactly that.
As for finding the abbreviated leased vehicle, a great place to start would be a BMW dealer, since that's the place where a car would be returned in that situation...
#2831 of 3108 Re: How do you buy a lease terminated BMW? [1socalgal]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
May 08, 2011 (10:59 am)
Check lease assumption sites like Swapalease.. Those people want out of their leases.. Sign up (it's under $50, I think), and you can communicate with those lessees.. If you see a car you are interested in, ask them to find out the current buyout (not the residual).. If you purchase the car from BMWFS (through them), then they are off the hook for the lease... Some of them might even chip in, to get rid of the car.
That may or may not be cheaper than what a dealer is asking for a comparable car. Most lessees don't terminate within the first 18 months, because it can be very expensive... If you find a late model car on a BMW lot, it's likely to be a factory official or demo/loaner (not that those can't be good buys).
#2832 of 3108 Re: Pedal Vs. peddle
May 08, 2011 (11:24 am)
HA! Very fair comment! Thanks for the correction and I should have known better. I do mean that in a very friendly way, I screwed up. However I think the majority of BMW owners do not have a clue about a clutch pedal.. Given the majority of BMW's sold in the US are automatics. Today it seems to be more about the brand or status than it is about performance and being the Ultimate Driving Machine. My S2000 does much more for my performance enjoyment and competition than the 3 series could ever hope to achieve. Hate to be negative but I think BMW has absolutely lost it. Add to that, if I wanted to spend the equivalent amount of money I'd buy a Lotus.
#2833 of 3108 Run flat general BMW rant
May 08, 2011 (1:32 pm)
kyfdx Thanks, I do appreciate the suggestions. I have perhaps not liked a car less than when I owned a VW Squareback... Dating myself... Nothing works. Temperatire control just doesn't work, blue tooth is a joke then there are the bloody run flat tires which have been well cited as awful tires. "Trend setters" are giving more credence to the experience of driving than BMW can support. As said before the majority of BMW owners have no idea what a clutch pedal (and I spelled it correctly this time) is for or where it is located. Remember the old 2002 advertisements highlighting that they were built to cruise at 100 MPh?? Mass market is clearly what BMW is after and it's hard to fault them, but the growing masses of people buying these poor performing cars is blatantly label/brand seeking. Nothing to do with performance or being the ultimate driving machine... Frankly I think Porsche had that title forever... Now perhaps Lotus is taking that over. interesting array of cars over and beyond BMW. I might even go with a Pontiac Solstice over the Z4.. Of course my S2000 already beats the Z4 and the 3 series is a joke particularly with an automatic transmission (Applies to all BMW's)
#2834 of 3108 Re: Pedal Vs. peddle [boston303]
May 08, 2011 (1:32 pm)
I wouldn't limit your comments to BMW. BMW is simply giving the buying market what it wants.
I can assure you that if the demand for manuals was high, you would see more of them on the car lots.... whatever the brand.
Car dealers want to sell as much as possible, and they could care less about the type of transmission in demand.
Back to BMW, though.... The company realized that there are only so many who want the "Ultimate Driving Machine", but far more with the means to buy something thats a "Joy" to drive.
Remember, if you want a manual but there isn't one available, you may complain (possibly loudly and often), but if you want an automatic, and there are tons of automatics available, most likely you would say nothing.
So it goes with BMW's market.
Back in the late 60's/early 70's, instead of transmission type, the complaint about muscle car evolution was finding few cars on lots without power steering and A/C. I suspect in 10-15 years the complaint will move towards finding cars without electronic gizmos on a car lot.
For sure, folks will always find something to be a bit dis-satisfied about.
#2835 of 3108 Re: Run flat general BMW rant [boston303]
May 08, 2011 (1:42 pm)
Yep ask me what I really think... Sorry to rant but I do think BMW is missing their roots.. Yep I know they have the "M" level, but they used to offer maximum performance at the entry level price... Not happening any more. I don't need to wear a badge/emblem to suggest I know a good car... even with an automatic transmission, which is certaily counter to any driving experience
Lost their focus for the market....
#2836 of 3108 Re: Pedal Vs. peddle [busiris]
May 08, 2011 (1:47 pm)
Perhaps... Check out the world market... Americans are way too driven to long straight aways and relaxed driving, not performance dial in "D" and have no clue about what a driving experience is really about...
May 08, 2011 (1:54 pm)
Yeah, I am a little to over the top on this... Sorry. I really dislike BMW at this point. Always disliked then from when I was President of the NE Region Porsche Club... Bias confirmed... BMW still suckx with their tire position and technology...