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warantee by larry175
Sep 08, 2008 (3:43 am)
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I believe that some times, depending on the dealer, you can get away with it. But personally I am intimadated. So I won't even put a K&N filter on the car.
Also I ordered a 2009 335xi with everything except the pakge with the different sized front and rear tires. (pita changing to winter tires and back in spring) barbera red with black int/grey poplar trim, tip, prem, sport, cold weather, comfort access, sat. radio, hd radio, whatever that is, heated steering wheel, navigation, rear backup whatamacall it. and what ever else who remembers., Build is scheduled for end of Sept. I should get it by end of October. Yea, I know, even with rft"s.
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Re: warantee [larry175] by mjbauer
Sep 08, 2008 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: larry175 (Sep 08, 2008 3:43 am)

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act protects consumers in areas like this. There are many areas where you can make changes and it is perfectly legal and will not void your warranty. It doesn't depend on the dealer at all.
 
While I do not have any complaints about he RFT's on my '08 335xi, I can understand that some do. I know the early versions of many of the RFT's were awful as far as road noise and wear.
 
I have not decided on whether I will buy RFT snow tires or standard snow tires. It really depends on whether or not I buy an additional set of wheels. I am leaning towards an extra set of wheels and tires. If i do that I will buy regular tires but i have not made up my mind yet. In part because it is a bit depressing to think about snow tires
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Re: Tire Rotation [lokki] by jaxs1
Sep 08, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: lokki (Sep 02, 2008 11:18 am)

The sport package tires cannot be rotated since they have different sizes front and rear and may be directional.
 
I don't think they care to recommend rotations on the regular tires because it would mean more cost to them since they have free maintenance and the tire rotation schedule does not line up well with their extended service intervals.
 
To solve this issue, they simply don't specify tire rotations in the recommended maintenance and then exclude the tires from the car's warranty, So, if the tires wear unevenly or early, it is your problem and they get to say "all" recommended maintenance is covered for 4 year 50,000 miles, but no warranty on tires.
 
The tire manufacture has a warranty, but I bet if you had uneven wear at 15K or 20K miles, the tire manufacturer would tell you it's not covered under their wear guarantee because you "should have" rotated the tires to prevent the damage. So you are out of luck.
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Re: Tire Rotation [jaxs1] by circlew
Sep 09, 2008 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Sep 08, 2008 7:00 pm)

I rotated MYSELF every 6K miles and the Contis wore perfectly. Just some feedback.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Tire Rotation [jaxs1] by shipo
Sep 09, 2008 (4:07 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Sep 08, 2008 7:00 pm)

Funny thing, BMW recommended against tire rotations BEFORE the whole "Free Maintenance" thing came about.
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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rotat by larry175
Sep 09, 2008 (4:21 am)
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I rotate on a regular schedule of 3/4k. My 2005 330xi went for over a year until I traded it in for an 06. The tires looked like they were just put on. The 06 (spit) went for 22000 miles and i couldn't stand the noise and vibration any so i dumpted them and put a set of avo's? on. Whe warehat a difference. They rode with no noise and much smoother. Of corse I sacrificed a bit of the handling aspec because the walls are softer but I don't drive on a track so who cares. The tread at 11000 miles is not showing at all. And would you believe that with 500 miles I hit a pot hole and blew the right front tire. The garage owner where the car was towed to asked me if i wished I had rft's on as he was mounting a new tire. NO WAY.
But thats in the past. The 2006 is gone and I am waiting for a 2009 335xi.
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Re: Tire Rotation [shipo] by jaxs1
Sep 09, 2008 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 09, 2008 4:07 am)

Well, is there anyone here who did NOT ever rotate the standard tires and still got the entire rated wear life of the tires with no uneven wear or other related problems?
 
If these are magic tires that don't need rotation or if the 3 series always puts even wear on the tires, then why waste time needlessly rotating the tires?
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Re: Tire Rotation [jaxs1] by shipo
Sep 09, 2008 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Sep 09, 2008 4:51 am)

I didn't rotate the tires on my first BMW (a 1999 328i), and while I had no noise or other unusual wear patterns on my tires, I will say that the rears did wear a bit faster than the fronts. When I traded it in on my 530i SP, the tires on the 328i had almost bang on 49,000 miles on them (yes, this was a non-SP car with all-season tires), I'm quite certain that the rears could have safely seen the 60,000 mile mark, and the fronts were probably good for more like 75,000 miles.
 
My 530i SP was a different story. Given the softer nature of the performance rubber, they were getting quite noisy by about the 12,000 mile mark, and so the following spring (when I was removing my set of winter wheels), I mounted the OEM rear wheels and tires on the front, and the fronts on the rear (same side in both cases), and the tire noise immediately went away. Given the success of that rotation, I continued to rotate the tires every spring from there-on-in.
 
Long story short, when I pony up for my next BMW, it will most likely be purchased with the Sport Package, and nowadays, that means staggered RFTs (i.e. wider in the rear than in the front), and that in turn means that rotations are basically impossible. With that factoid in mind, I'll probably spring for another set of front wheels, and then buy a set of four same-sized GFTs and run that set-up while I have the car (which will allow me to rotate the tires). When I dispose of the car, I'll remount the factor RFT rubber on the front wheels, and put the wider factory rear wheels/tires back on. That will leave me with two extra front wheels and tires, two extra tires off the rim, and most likely a set of four winter wheels and tires to dispose of. Hello? Craig's list?
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: Tire Rotation [circlew] by laurasdada
Sep 09, 2008 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 3:38 am)

"I rotated MYSELF every 6K miles ..."
 
I hope you didn't drive after rotating yourself. You must have gotten very dizzy...
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fun flat replacement. by bokimrx
Sep 10, 2008 (9:18 pm)
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hi, much needed answers!
I have a '07 335i stock runflats with 3 bubbles. do i need to purchase stock run flats when im returning my lease? mavis is telling me i do but im wondering if i can just use another non run-flat brand? thanks for the help.

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