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BMW 3 Series, Tires
#1817 of 3108 Re: run flats [dohrmc]
Apr 09, 2008 (4:30 am)
"It has changed my mind on a new BMW."
I have leased BMW's exclusively since 1993.
The run flats are the latest "betrayal" from a once proud company that has lost its way. The "Ultimate Driving Machine" is alas, no more.
My 2005 545i lease is up in July. It has been a wonderful vehicle. With all the sophisticated technology on board, I can imagine how much money it would be costing me in maintenance during years 5-8 if I was to CPO it and buy it.
I am considering buying a user-friendly, long-term reliable vehicle like the Honda Accord EX L V6 sedan in July. No run flats. Turn signals that work like the "old days." Radio stations that can be set easily. Insert a key, twist and the engine starts. How refreshing!
I will be back if and when BMW realizes the folly of its ways.
'Til then.... thanks for the memories.
#1818 of 3108 Re: run flats [circlew]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Apr 09, 2008 (9:20 am)
Probably not monitoring us daily but there are ways that the content of these boards are brought to the attention of manufacturers---so your comments do count, definitely.
#1819 of 3108 Re: run flats [Mr_Shiftright]
Apr 09, 2008 (9:48 am)
Nice to know it gets back somehow.
These are extremely valid concerns that should be addressed by BMW in some way, shape or form. I've noticed some feedback in Roundel but is it doing any good?
How will we ever know?
#1820 of 3108 Re: run flats [circlew]
Apr 09, 2008 (11:48 am)
"How will we ever know?"
When RFTs are made optional. I'm not holding my breath. As you noted, Roundel is printing more letters that make the same points made on this board, including the reluctance of people to even buy/lease a new BMW w/ RFTs.
However, there are "more at the door." So long as a brand is driven (sorry) by badge wearers & designed in a country/continent that has no clue what 450 miles of driving without a tire store within 300 miles is all about, here is where we are.
I drive Nevada regularly, and even when I'm in other places, I seek out back roads and other fun options. I will not drive without a spare tire & I certainly prefer tires that allow the vehicle to perform at its full potential.
BMWNA couldn't care less, I imagine. There's three (or 300?) sheep for every one actual driver who opts out.
#1821 of 3108 Re: run flats [cdnpinhead]
Apr 10, 2008 (2:57 am)
Exactly my thoughts...I would not want anyone to hold false hope for changing back to the good ol' days of spare tires and oil dip sticks.
Quite the contrary will hold true, no doubt. Soon all BMW models will run on stiffer sidewalls.
#1822 of 3108 Re: run flats [circlew]
Apr 10, 2008 (7:43 am)
My 08 535i is my first BMW, and I love it. That said, I hate the fact that it doesn't have a dipstick nor an oil temp gauge. I also hate the fact that they got rid of the drain plug on the differential - that was just petty.
I'll curse run-flats with every breath I take, but if they kept them I may still buy another when I'm done with the 535i because I can fix that problem by getting a set of PS2's. Sure, it's more expensive, and it pisses me off, but I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face.
If they get rid of the spare tire, I'm out. Not having a spare is dangerous, and I'll never be without one. Ever.
#1823 of 3108 Re: run flats [bdkinnh]
Apr 13, 2008 (12:39 pm)
I'm also in the camp that will not be without a spare tire. Has anyone discussed with a BMW dealership the possibility of having one mounted in the trunk? Sure, could just throw one back there... But it will bounce quite a bit depending what you are driving over (esp. speed bumps). Also... dropping 50k on a car and having a tire and jack bounce around in my trunk seems... well... unfortunate.
#1824 of 3108 Re: run flats [galenbh]
Apr 14, 2008 (2:24 am)
I will not be without a spare either. So, I ordered an extra wheel(oem) from the dealer-$286 + tax) and an extra conti pro contact from Tire rack ($144) and a 12" bungy cord from Pep Boys (89 cents). drop the wheel in the trunk...on either side in the back corners is a "D" ring bolted to the car. Attach one end of the bungy cord to each D"" ring and the tire is installed. Limits trunk space, sure...but there's still room for soft duffles when you travel and plenty of room for normal stuff like groceries, etc. locally. Doesn't bounce a bit...sits there like a rock (it weighs about 40 pounds). And...as a bonus...if you ordered the car with the drop down seat you've hardly taken any space at all and since the seat(when folded down) angles slightly upward toward the interior...the tire doesn't fly forward either.
#1825 of 3108 Re: run flats [rfl]
Apr 14, 2008 (5:38 am)
"Attach one end of the bungy cord to each D"" ring and the tire is installed."
You might want to consider a stouter arrangement -- maybe a ratcheting strap & some means of limiting forward motion with it. In a front-end collision that 40-lb assembly could become quite a battering ram as it moves forward. That said, yours is the solution I would have selected, had I ended up with a 3.
#1826 of 3108 Re: run flats [cdnpinhead]
Apr 14, 2008 (8:36 am)
I'll second that, bungee cords are stabilizers only and will tear themselves apart under any real load such as sudden deceleration of a 40# wheel. Splurge the extra $5 for a proper nylon tie down strap. Security of a spare wheel in the cargo area of the wagon was one of the major issues I wrestled with when we considered the 3 series.