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BMW 3 Series, Tires
Apr 08, 2008 (11:29 am)
Wow, I have just read several years of posts on the RFT problem. It has changed my mind on a new BMW. I am currently driving my excellent '99 Saab 95 and was about to spring for a new BMW. No thank you, BMW. I will wait for the RFT dust to settle. [For the record, I have like BMW for many years, having test driven the old 2002 many times. I couldn't afford it, as I was a poor lieutenant at the time.] Now that I can afford whatever I want, they have moved the target. Dealer support sounds no-existent. I am not interested in having an adventure with tires on a long road trip. I think it is because most of the decision makers can't envision driving somewhere where there is no possible service because of the remote location. Luckily, there are lots of really good cars out there.
#1809 of 3108 Re: run flats [dohrmc]
Apr 08, 2008 (11:47 am)
I am surprised to read that this one thing would cause one not to buy a vehicle? In effect the benefits of run flats are that you can safely continue to drive for a relatively long distance without stopping. That to me is a safety feature, especially for me if my wife is driving. She will not have to pull over to change a tire in a hazardous area. The drawback, is they cannot be repaired I don't believe the newer BMWs are still having any problems with tires and they are becoming common on many vehicles. I posed a question a while back as to insurance on these tires and wheels and was answered to my satisfaction about the lack of a need for the insurance
#1810 of 3108 Re: run flats [dohrmc]
Apr 08, 2008 (1:04 pm)
same thing here...RFT is the only thing that holds me on as I read so many negative reviews about it. Can anyone tell me how bad it is compare to regular ones, much noisier, shorter tread life, higher cost....etc. What is the best brand to go with? and if it's possible to replace it with regular ones and if there is enough room for the spare? Thanks
#1811 of 3108 Re: run flats [mjbauer]
Apr 08, 2008 (1:12 pm)
"In effect the benefits of run flats are that you can safely continue to drive for a relatively long distance without stopping. That to me is a safety feature, especially for me if my wife is driving. She will not have to pull over to change a tire in a hazardous area."
Geez, I look at it from a completely opposite perspective. I'd MUCH rather have my wife driving a car with a spare tire so that if/when she has a flat, she can simply call me (or roadside assistance assuming one of us is on the road and we're not together), have the tire changed and be on her way, regardless of how much further she's got to go. To me, having a spare tire is far-FAR safer than having RFTs and no spare.
#1812 of 3108 Re: run flats [shipo]
Apr 08, 2008 (2:02 pm)
I passed a lady a few weeks ago in heavy traffic, no way to get over and help. She was on the side of the road in a new BMW, the left rear tire was essentially gone. At the moment I passed, she was on her cell phone. I don't consider driving 60 miles or so on a RFT that is damaged a long distance. If I was out in the wilds of Georgia, or Alabama I would be on the side of the road for a long while. Not to mention a great deal of the USA. With a spare, I would be out of there pretty quick. Techies always promise more than they can deliver. I am going to wait and see how this shakes out. In the meantime, I will probably get a car with a spare tire.
#1813 of 3108 Re: run flats [dohrmc]
Apr 08, 2008 (4:27 pm)
I had an '06 325 with the run flats and SP which turned out to be a lemon. I would have been able to overlook the poor handling of the issue by BMW until I got my $ back but the idea of getting another car with run flats steered (no pun intended) me away from BMW for now. In 15 months, I had 3 nails in 3 tires which did not go flat because I left the nail in until I could get it fixed (no air loss). Each was an incredible hassle having to find a tire service station that would repair the run flat tire (insane to have to buy a new tire for that, first one at 75 miles- BMW said I needed to buy a new tire!). The last one could have been a major hassle- driving with 11 year old twins in the car on back roads in far Northern CA. I saw the nail but knew I would never find a place to repair the tire in rural CA on a Sunday- never mind thinking of trying to find a place that sold them! I was 150 miles from home and luckily the nail kept the air in as the run flat would never have lasted. Sorry BMW, you will need to find another customer to persuade of the value of your corporate decisions.
#1814 of 3108 Re: How long do Continental All-Weather Run Flats Usually Last? [wholi]
Apr 08, 2008 (6:14 pm)
That is not true at my Costco. My friend just swapped his run flats at Costco with no problems.
#1815 of 3108 Re: run flats [ajfinoak]
Apr 09, 2008 (3:51 am)
I live out in the NW, where there are a lot of open roads that I would love to drive a 335 on. I made a decision not to buy a BMW based on two key items - first the run-flats and the potential of being stuck somewhere more than 50 miles away from a dealership or tire place that stocked them, and second because I never got a straight answer from the two dealers I talked to. Although there were a couple of other small things I did not personally like on the BMW, they would not have been deal breakers. BMW will continue to stay on my radar, but unless they give me an option on the RFT, they will not get my business. I have at least two friends who have made the same decision for the same reason.
I continue to hope that BMW is monitoring this and other boards.
#1816 of 3108 Re: run flats [lgm]
Apr 09, 2008 (4:29 am)
I doubt BMW monitors these boards or even cares about this issue...full speed ahead!
#1817 of 3108 Re: run flats [dohrmc]
Apr 09, 2008 (4:30 am)
"It has changed my mind on a new BMW."
I have leased BMW's exclusively since 1993.
The run flats are the latest "betrayal" from a once proud company that has lost its way. The "Ultimate Driving Machine" is alas, no more.
My 2005 545i lease is up in July. It has been a wonderful vehicle. With all the sophisticated technology on board, I can imagine how much money it would be costing me in maintenance during years 5-8 if I was to CPO it and buy it.
I am considering buying a user-friendly, long-term reliable vehicle like the Honda Accord EX L V6 sedan in July. No run flats. Turn signals that work like the "old days." Radio stations that can be set easily. Insert a key, twist and the engine starts. How refreshing!
I will be back if and when BMW realizes the folly of its ways.
'Til then.... thanks for the memories.