- #1364 of 2034
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On the Fence because of the RFT's
by mooselook
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Sep 17, 2007 (6:53 pm)
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My lease on the 2006 Audi A4 is about to expire and I've been seriously considering the 328 xi. However, I have concerns about the RFTs. On a recent road trip 300 miles from home I hit a small board on Rt 80 and wondered what would have happened had I been on RFTs and gotton a blow out. Am I thinking about this incorrectly or has the 3 series become an "around town" car because of these tires? Should I stay away from BMW until they offer conventional tires as an option?
Thanks for your opinions...
Regards,
Mooselook
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- #1365 of 2034
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Re: On the Fence because of the RFT's [mooselook]
by dan12
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Sep 17, 2007 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: mooselook (Sep 17, 2007 6:53 pm)
Well, I think you would have been safer with RFTs if you had a blowout. The problem would be what you could do after the blowout if you are 300 miles from home. According to the manual, you can drive approximately 155 miles with complete pressure loss in a tire. So you would have that much distance to try and find a shop that can replace your tire. I suppose it should also be possible for a shop to install a donut spare tire and throw your wheel in the trunk. The other option is to carry a donut with you on such long trips. You may also install non RFTs, but that wouldn't help you much because you would still need to carry a spare with you if you are concerned about trips over 150 miles away.
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- #1366 of 2034
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Re: Runflats on 3-series suck, BMW sucks worse [ray1130]
by skobola
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Sep 17, 2007 (10:19 pm)
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Replying to: ray1130 (Sep 13, 2007 1:46 pm)
This is exactly what ticks me off, namely, that different dealers implemented the exchange differently, thus making us who had to pay something look like suckers. It is not my fault that BMW as a company installed a substandard tires and that I by living in Miami had to pay something that should have been free or provided at 50% discount. BMW told me that they cannot regulate what BMW dealers charge, which is a joke. As I said before, it really left a sour taste in my mouth, and although I love Bimmers, it certainly made me start thinking about going somewhere else... Which I believe is stupid on the BMW's end, but who am I to challenge this?
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- #1367 of 2034
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Re: Runflats on 3-series suck, BMW sucks worse [skobola]
by circlew
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Sep 18, 2007 (3:49 am)
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Replying to: skobola (Sep 17, 2007 10:19 pm)
You are the customer and IMO, your dealer looses. It just happened that my dealer absorbed all of my cost but if they didn't and I was in your position now, they would not get my business. One e-mail to the sales rep got the ball rolling and in a week the tires were changed. I had 12K miles on the EL42's when the swap was made to Conti's.
For instance, when I rotated my tires, I stripped a lug and took it to the dealer to fix. The dealer replaced it and also rotated the one set, no charge. Total cost out the door $2.25.
Use your dealer as leverage on your next purchase and then let them know you are going elsewhere.
Regards,
OW
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- #1368 of 2034
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Re: Runflats on 3-series suck, BMW sucks worse [skobola]
by agnosto
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Sep 18, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: skobola (Sep 17, 2007 10:19 pm)
Precisely and agreed 100% and that is one of the main reasons I stay away of buying the BMW "UDM" as these RFTs are a big concern, and better BMW do something sooner than later to address and correct the issue or otherwise will have many unhappy and soon will loose lots of customers...
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- #1369 of 2034
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Re: On the Fence because of the RFT's [mooselook]
by ggurr54
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Sep 18, 2007 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: mooselook (Sep 17, 2007 6:53 pm)
For some of us it has become an "around town" car. I would love a new 335i but I live 120 miles from the nearest BMW dealer. I average one to two flats a year (a lot of construction where I live with all the extra nails and screws in the road) and can't image paying 400-600 dollars and year to cover tire damage. Also would be scared to death of getting stuck with no source for a replacement tire as no dealer in my home town carries RFTs. Until BMW realizes that this is a real issue for some of us they will continue to lose business. Otherwise I think it's an almost perfect car. (Please bring back the dip stick).
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- #1370 of 2034
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Re: Runflats on 3-series suck, BMW sucks worse [circlew]
by skobola
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Sep 18, 2007 (10:11 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 18, 2007 3:49 am)
Provided that BMW dealers in Miami became pretty arrogant, rude and not caring about the customers, including them not giving any decent deals, I have found myself one outside the town/state, where I do all my purchases at very decent cost. Unfortunately for me, I have really grown to like Bimmers, and to be honest, nothing else really compares to Bimmers in my book, so it will be very difficult to find a replacement. The only one that I could stand is the A4 Quattro, but this is not really comparable to my 325i. I understand that this is not the topic for this forum, but any suggestions for the alternative cars would be appreciated.
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- #1371 of 2034
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Re: On the Fence because of the RFT's [mooselook]
by beverly5534
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Sep 19, 2007 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: mooselook (Sep 17, 2007 6:53 pm)
I had an Audi A4 before my X5. I loved my A4. It was a close decision, but I now have a 328I sport wagon. I have had 2 flats in 4 months ownership. Not the car's fault, but a real PITA to have to find a dealer and then BUY another tire. If BMW doesn't give the option of regular tires with a spare by the time my lease is up, I WILL get the Audi A4 wagon to replace it.
IMHO
beverly5534
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- #1372 of 2034
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Valencia BMW
by raphaelhom
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Sep 20, 2007 (12:29 am)
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Replying to: shangti (Aug 10, 2007 6:05 am)
Who is your service advisor at Valencia BMW. I have had a service advisor there for 3 years I like very much. One of the reasons I am thinking of buying another BMW is because of the service he has provided.
On the other hand, I"ve had a hard time there getting a sales person to pay any attention to me. They all act like they are doing me a favor even talking with me, let alone go for a test drive.
I have found this same attitude at Santa Monica BMW. That they are doing me a favor and if I want a test drive I need to make an appt because they are too busy to just have someone walk in for a test drive.
The service department at the Santa Monica BMW is absolutely horrible! by the way.
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- #1373 of 2034
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Re: On the Fence because of the RFT's [beverly5534]
by circlew
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Sep 20, 2007 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: beverly5534 (Sep 19, 2007 3:02 pm)
Firestone carry BS EL42.
Regards,
OW
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