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Re: Run Flat Tires - '06 BMW 3-Series - Opinions/Experiences [tturedraider] by earnie
Sep 03, 2007 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: tturedraider (Nov 02, 2005 4:44 pm)

I took our 2006 BMW 325i (sport package) to local dealer (Paducah, KY) with 17,000 miles and again at 18,000 complaining about the RFT problem. In the process of denial, we had a family emergency and now mileage is 20,204. According to BMW North American, we must pay full cost because the mileage is over 20,000 (under 20,000 miles 1/2 price) even though the dealer was informed. BMW has a bulletin (360606) about the problem but has failed to notify affected owners. We have another BMW (Z3) and will getting rid of both soon. Also understand there is a class action lawsuit being formulated which we will gladly be part of.
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Re: RunFlat Problem - BMW won't respond [earnie] by shipo
Sep 03, 2007 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: earnie (Sep 03, 2007 10:45 am)

Assuming that your "3251" SP is actually a RWD 325i SP, then your local dealer wouldn't have been able to help you even if your tires only had a couple of thousand miles on them. Why? Because your car has the Sport Package which includes (among other goodies) high performance summer tires (which aren't covered by the replacement program), tires BTW that are lucky to see the far side of 20,000 miles.
 
I'm guessing that you didn't read the fine print when you bought your car because if you did you would have seen BMWs disclaimer that the tires that come on the Sport Package don't last as long (as All Season tires) and are more susceptible to damage.
 
All of the above is a way of saying, "Be happy that you managed to get more than 20,000 miles on your factory tires, and it's time to start shopping for a replacement set."
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: New Tires [idoc2] by tan2
Sep 05, 2007 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: idoc2 (Aug 23, 2007 5:40 pm)

Hi, I went to the dealer in Westchester but they haven't been very helpful. I'd like to try to bring it to the CT dealer. Please let me know which one you went to.
Thanks
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Re: 24,500 miles on my run-flats [shipo] by cherod
Sep 05, 2007 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Aug 24, 2007 12:39 pm)

SHIPO,
I apologize for not getting back to you sooner, but I was out of the country and just got home today; no internet access.
1) Are you leasing your car?
   YES i am leasing but was thinking of buying it.
2) If so, how many months & miles do you have left on your lease?
   I have about 24 months left and about 13000 miles left.
3) Would you be comfortable with a "Spare tire in a can" type of approach to dealing with a flat tire? Yes
 
Thanks once again for taking your time out of your busy schedule.
 
Best Regards,
 
CHEROD
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Re: 24,500 miles on my run-flats [cherod] by shipo
Sep 05, 2007 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: cherod (Sep 05, 2007 3:41 pm)

Yeah, I was out of the country too when I wrote you, HK in my case, got back Saturday.
 
Okay, here's the deal, IF you turn your car in at the end of the lease then you MUST have RFTs (in good condition) on the car. In that case, unless you still have at least 5mm of tread depth on your current tires, you're going to have to pony up the $1,250 (plus shipping from TireRack) for the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A RFTs that you are currently running.
 
If on the other hand you decide now to keep the car at lease end, then you've got LOTS of options. Below are a few sets of GFTs that I've heard good things about:
 
Summer Rubber:
$1,020 - Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
$848 - Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
$820 - Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
$672 - Yokohama S.drive
 
Longer lasting High Performance All-Season rubber:
$920 - Yokohama ADVAN S.4.
$522 - Kumho Ecsta ASX
 
I've heard very good things about all six tires, and as such you probably cannot go wrong with any of them.
 
Keep us posted.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: New Tires [tan2] by mgaimee
Sep 05, 2007 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: tan2 (Sep 05, 2007 12:41 pm)

My dealer first insisted there was no replacement program for the 328xi. After reading these messages, I told my dealer I was going to check with BMW North America. He called me back a little later and told me there was a replacement program for this vehicle due to wear and tear on the tires only. If you report problems before you reach 10,000 miles, BMW will replace the tires with Continental tires, free of charge. If the mileage is between 10K and 20K, the customer must pay for 2 of the tires and BMW will pay for the other 2. If mileage is over 20K, the replacement program is not in effect.
Push your dealer more. Complain about noise from the tires. Good luck.
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Re: New Tires [mgaimee] by tan2
Sep 06, 2007 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: mgaimee (Sep 05, 2007 5:26 pm)

Thanks for your help. I am so frustrated. I have a 325xi that I simply do not feel safe in. I noticed a flat tire when I was leaving to work but based on the sound I knew I couldn't drive it to the dealer to have it replaced. I figured I would put the spare on and drive it to the dealer the next day. To my surprise (and my mistake for not checking when purchasing the car), the car does not have a spare, has no jack and no spare tire storage room. When purchasing the car, the seller talked up these RFT. Well, they still say that you are supposedly able to drive it for a limited amount of miles - not in my case. There was no way I would have felt safe driving that and the rims would have been ruined for sure if I did. Then I would be out for the cost of tire plus rims. In addition, my flat tire monitor didn't even work! According to BMW, the last time I had it calibrated at their service dept it was done incorrectly. Boy, do I feel safe. I would like to change to regular tires and put the spare in my trunk - the cost $1800. I have close to 18,000 miles on my car. Also, BMW told me that the car's suspension is not designed for regular tires. They do not recommend it. I feel that BMW's concern is not the safety of customers but rather their pockets. Very upsetting. I told them I do not feel safe in the car especially since I drive on the highway a lot- why talk up RFT when they know it is a problem. So much for spending over $40,000 on a car. I am a first time BMW buyer and the last. Needed to vent...
 
P.S. pending litigation involving deceptive trade practice pending in CA. I will be watching this carefully.
 
I encourage everyone to write letters to BMW, Consumer Protection and Highway Safety about these tires.
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Re: New Tires [tan2] by circlew
Sep 06, 2007 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: tan2 (Sep 06, 2007 5:59 am)

I feel for you but you need to take more care to understand the car you are buying before you make the purchase. The RFT issue is a problem for sure but I am also sure based on your post that you would have never purchased the car in the first place if you read this thread on the BMW forum and other blogs on the net. That should have been part of your purchasing strategy to review all of the aspects before a buy decision is made.
 
In my case, one e-mail got me free tires and it was largely due to feedback from this RFT thread.
 
I wish you the best regarding getting to a satisfying position to this issue.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: New Tires [circlew] by tan2
Sep 06, 2007 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 06, 2007 6:14 am)

You're right. This was my first car purchase. I researched the car but didn't research the tires. Now, I want regular tires on my car - never had a problem with regular tires before and I felt a little more safe knowing that there is a spare but BMW does not recommend putting regular tires on the car. It's a little fishy that they hype up RFT, you have to replace not repair these tires and they are the ones that can install it properly. What are our options?
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Re: New Tires [tan2] by shipo
Sep 06, 2007 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: tan2 (Sep 06, 2007 5:59 am)

Not that I'm defending BMW's choice to use RFTs (I'm not), but I do have a couple of problems with some content in your post.
 
1) If your car does truly have RFTs, then the visual difference between a properly inflated tire and one with no pressure is very slight, so slight that only the most acute eye would notice the difference. Then again, if the sidewall was shredded, noticing the problem is child's play. Was your tire really destroyed?
 
2) Whoever told you that you cannot mount GFTs on your car is lying to you.
 
3) Eighteen hundred dollars to mount four GFTs and put a spare in your trunk? Ummm, only if you bend over and walk in backwards. Please consider the following:
 
 - A set of four Continental ContiProContact SSR 205/55 HR-16 RFTs is $444 from TireRack. Figure a little over $600 with shipping, taxes, mounting and balancing.
 - A set of four (higher performance All-Season) Yokohama ADVAN S.4 205/55 HR-16 GFTs is $536 from TireRack. Figure a little over $700 with shipping, taxes, mounting and balancing.
 - A set of four (ultra high performance All-Season) Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 205/55 HR-16 GFTs is $536 from TireRack. Figure mid to high $700s with shipping, taxes, mounting and balancing.
 - An inexpensive spare 16x7 alloy wheel with a Michelin Pilot Sport A/S already mounted on it can be had from TireRack for less than $300 (including taxes and shipping).
 
So, even if you went with the most expensive of the above, you could still do the entire deed of changing your car over to GFTs for under $1,100.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

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