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BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

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Re: Why get a new tire after a nail? [nkeen] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 12, 2007 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: nkeen (Aug 12, 2007 5:35 pm)

Well I wouldn't MIND a RFT, but I would mind paying for it after every flat.
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Re: Why get a new tire after a nail? [Mr_Shiftright] by rhmass
Aug 14, 2007 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 12, 2007 5:47 pm)

I am not sure people should follow the recommendation to the letter. That is; replacement after each flat. BMW doesn't recommend repair for the non RFT either according to the manual. It is for the liability reason. The way to handle this matter is based on common sense. I had a nail on the RFT tire and drove it for 35 miles. The nail was right in the center, so I had it plugged. It has worked fine. Had I have to drive 100 miles to get help, I probably want to replace it. The whole idea of having a tire pressure monitor built in is to help you learn about the problem early on to take proper measures, IMO.
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Re: Why get a new tire after a nail? [rhmass] by circlew
Aug 14, 2007 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: rhmass (Aug 14, 2007 6:51 am)

It seems to make sense but I would not advise repairing/reusing after running any tire with zero pressure for any given distance. The reason is non-visible damage to the inner belts that is not apparent could result in a very unsafe event going forward at any given time. It's just not worth the risk, IMHO.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Why get a new tire after a nail? by actualsize
Aug 14, 2007 (7:44 am)
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Yes, but the key phrase here is zero pressure. In the Mini example I gave in post #1252 we never let the tire get anywhere near that point. It never ran flat, or even severely low. Fixing a nail-hole in an RFT or any other tire is technically fine in a case like that.
 
But some dealers and tire stores are hiding behind lawyers and telling folks they can't be repaired AT ALL. Since they can't know the tire's run-flat history before they get their hands on it, I guess I can understand that POV. But it also feels like an excuse to sell more tires.
 
If carmakers and retailers who deal with RFTs hold the "cannot repair" line firm in simple nail-hole cases like the one cited above, count me out - especially at the current x2 or x3 price premium.
 
TPMS is where the lion's share of the benefit lies anyway.
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Its not that complicated by jbrock22
Aug 14, 2007 (11:11 am)
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Simply carry tire goop and a mini compressor. Use the goop, add air, off you go. If the punture is that large that the goop does't hold pressure, the tire is history anyway. Do not drive on a RFT without air pressure, unless you want to purchase a new one. RFT tires are fixable just as any GFT tire is. Next subject.
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Re: Why get a new tire after a nail? [actualsize] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 14, 2007 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: actualsize (Aug 14, 2007 7:44 am)

The tire experts tell me that if your monitoring system is not accurate, or if you are not paying STRICT attention to the pressures, you will experience premature wear and noise with RFTs.
 
I'm still inquiring from expert tire shops in my area (those who do high end cars, racing cars, etc) as to what's what with repairing an RFT---the do-s and don't-s.
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24,500 miles on my run-flats by rlatham
Aug 16, 2007 (3:33 pm)
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I have 24,500 miles on my run flats on my 2006 325i (non sport package). Everyone here is correct that the tires are obnoxiously loud early on (mine were loud at the 15k mark).
 
I haven't noticed, however, some of the other things that people on the forum have complained about. IE foul weather performance problems. I have a manual transmission which might be why, but I've found if you're patient and smart about where you're going you won't get stuck. I only had one evening where I didn't make it home in the car...and that's because someone traded a 2006 C320 4Matic into my dealership so I took it.
 
When it's all said and done though, I'm getting an additional wheel at the BMW dealership tomorrow and when I replace my tires next month, they will not be run-flats.
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Re: Why get a new tire after a nail? [actualsize] by dkg42
Aug 16, 2007 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: actualsize (Aug 14, 2007 7:44 am)

My Bridgestone RFT's were replaced at 17K miles..they were noisy as hell. BMW split the cost as they were part of a "defetctive lot", so I paid $350 for 4 new EL-42's. After 4500 miles, one of the new RFT's got a smail nail in it, resulting in a very slow leak. BMW refused to repair it, so I had the tire replaced, at a charge of $232. The techs scored the rim , changing the tire so I demanded that the dealer refund the full price of the tire and they agreed to repair or replace the rim. What sucks is the mileage differnce between 3 out of 4 tires.
 
How do you rotate these?
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Re: Why get a new tire after a nail? [dkg42] by circlew
Aug 17, 2007 (3:24 am)
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Replying to: dkg42 (Aug 16, 2007 3:50 pm)

I advise front to back on the same sides IF all dimensions of the tires/rims are the same. I do not think the mileage will make that much of a difference. The same happened to me at 5K miles with a new tire and no issues up until 13K (all tires replaced). Also, my shop damaged the rim. I am amazed BMW dealer ruined the rim.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Why get a new tire after a nail? [circlew] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 17, 2007 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 17, 2007 3:24 am)

You have to be careful with the RFTs in taking them off and you need up to date tire equipment. You can't be using 20 year old machinery.
 
Also it's easy to break the pressure sensor, if say you have the sensor 180 degrees out from the point of where you are breaking the tire.
 
So with carelessness and cranky old equipment, you can very easily wipe out the rim and the sensor.

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