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#125 of 142 Repost, L0G1K towing with the CRV
by l0g1k
Apr 19, 2010 (4:59 pm)
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Well I didn't buy a Gitan finally, I went with a trailer-tent instead. It's a big one however, 12 feet long and weight about as much as a Gitan. Actually the Gitan weights less on the tongue than my Bonair, I can lift up a Gitan by myself but I can't lift my tent-trailer (about 200 lbs on the tongue is my guess, I got 2 20 lbs propane botles and a 60 lbs deep cycle battery).
I drove a lot of millage with it and it does pull hard when I get up hills. On the flat it's really easy to pull but it seems to have a lot less trouble pulling at 120 km/h than at 100 km/h. The RPM is higher and the CRV delivers more torque I guess. At 100 km/h going up an overpass brings the speed to about 85/90 km/h if I floor it and don't downshift.
Breaking isn't as much of a concern as I tought, I even had an electronic break controller installed and I'm not even using it anymore (I would need to have the Bonair breaks fixed).
The main problem for me is that I like to go in the woods and as I expected the clutch isn't up to the challenge when going up hill from a stop. I'm looking to change my CRV to a bigger, automatic SUV.
I also moved my girlfriend with a rental trailer witch was a lot more heavy than the tent trailer. Pulling it wasn't that bad altough we were on the flats all along. The suspension had alot of problems, the shocks were at their lowest.Even when I'm towing my Bonair, the rear suspension is really low. The coil springs arn't stiff enough.
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On a different note, I've pulled the tent trailer with a lot of my friend's different vehicules and one of them has a Honda Element. It's the same meccanic as a 2001 + Honda CRV and it pulled my Bonair butifully. We were 4 in the Element fully loaded and it didn't even need to downshift a big hill around my place where I have to floor it in 4th gear to stay up to speed.
As a bonus, the CRV near a lake
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Apr 19, 2010 (6:09 pm)
I would want to buy that CRV.
Just because they "can" do something, the strain is tremendous and the car will pay a price.
You idea of buying something that was built to tow is a great idea!
Edit...I would not want to buy that CRV!
#127 of 142 a Yeat later
by l0g1k
Apr 19, 2010 (5:35 pm)
A year later, I don't think the CRV suffered much from the towing, engine and transmission are still runing great, the car has 160 000 miles on it and still drives great.
#128 of 142 Re: a Yeat later [l0g1k]
by isellhondas
Apr 19, 2010 (6:12 pm)
Well, maybe no long term damage was done but it still was abuse.
Honda can take a beating and still run well!
#129 of 142 Re: Repost, L0G1K towing with the CRV [l0g1k]
by steve_ HOST
Apr 19, 2010 (8:11 pm)
Thanks, that fits.
#130 of 142 Re: reply to: l0g1k in post #111 [l0g1k]
by blueiedgod
Apr 20, 2010 (9:57 am)
On another note, the Element has the K24 engine, the same as a 2001+ CRV as my 1999 has a B20Z engine, 2 litre instead of 2.4 for the element.
My guess is that a 2001+ CRV would tow as easily as the Honda Element.
Element has K24 block but a slightly different head than the CR-V. 2002-2006 CR-V has K24A1, while I believe Element has K24A5 or A3, someone with the Element can confrm that.
The 1997-1998 CR-V has B20B engine
The 1999-2001 CR-V had B20Z engine.
#131 of 142 Re: reply to: l0g1k in post #111 [blueiedgod]
by l0g1k
Apr 20, 2010 (5:36 pm)
I don't know much about the K24 engine differences but in my 2008 car review the Honda CRV and Honda Element both have 166 hp
5800rpm. However, the 2008 CRV is rated to tow 680 kg (1500 lbs) and the Element 907 kg (2000 lbs). Both weight about the same, I really don't know why there is a difference in towing capacity.
#133 of 142 Re: reply to: l0g1k in post #111 [l0g1k]
by blueiedgod
Apr 21, 2010 (9:22 am)
I don't know much about the K24 engine differences but in my 2008 car review the Honda CRV and Honda Element both have 166 hp5800rpm. However, the 2008 CRV is rated to tow 680 kg (1500 lbs) and the Element 907 kg (2000 lbs). Both weight about the same, I really don't know why there is a difference in towing capacity.
Probably because Element is only a 4 seater, while CR-V is a 5 seater. I wonder if the total loading capacity is the same for both vehicles.
#134 of 142 Re: reply to: l0g1k in post #111 [blueiedgod]
by gimmestdtranny
Apr 21, 2010 (9:52 am)
Somewhere I read recently that trlr towing gross weights (the weight of the trlr and its cargo {payload}) actually was supposed to include the weight of the payload of the car. i.e. If the car was allowed to carry 850lb incl all its passengers and luggage, then you deduct that from the (let's say,1500lb) trlr towing limit, which would reduce the gross weight of the trlr and its load to only 650lb. I am going to see if I can find whether that is the wording or not in the OM. If it is worded that way, then they are just trying to allow themselves wiggle room to get out of a wty claim if the particular claim was deemed due to overloading. It would just be a protection measure of conservatism, because they know human nature is to push the envelope always.